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22 January 2006, 04:59
500grains
Get the gun evaluated before purchasing...
Gentlemen,

This is a suggestion/reminder that before purchasing a double rifle, it is a very good idea to have the double evaluated by a DR expert gunsmith. There are too many potential flaws in a used double that cannot be detected by an amateur, or even by the current owner.

Example of a DR transaction gone bad:

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tp.../460105063#460105063

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tp.../778105163#778105163

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tp.../208100963#208100963

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23 January 2006, 13:36
Rusty
Perhaps we should post a list of Gunsmiths that are capable of checking/repairing a double rifle?

JJ Perodeau, Champlin Firearms, Enid, OK.


Rusty
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23 January 2006, 18:03
new_guy
Kirk Merrington http://www.kirkmerrington.net/

David Trevallion
9 Old Mountain Rd.
Cape Neddick, ME 03902
Tel: 207-361-1130


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23 January 2006, 18:05
Peter
I tend to agree, but what does this cost? I confess to buying a (modern) double without it being inspected by an "expert", but I did buy it from a reputable dealer. Still, the comment is a "must have" when buying a "traditional" (old) double, and even more so in a private sale.
Peter.


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23 January 2006, 18:13
new_guy
I would think an hour's rate of published shop rates would be a fair price to expect to pay for evaluation. If there's a problem, these guys will suspect or know it in much less than an hour.

Plus any shipping to and from the dealer.


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23 January 2006, 21:25
bobc
I have a double coming and had JJ evaluate it before finalizing the purchase. On an old gun, there's no telling what will come up, so I relied on the wise counsel of Rusty and 400 NE to have the gun sent to Champlins. Cabelas agreed and we worked out a repair allowance. This would not have worked on the typical '3 day approval' plan of most sales, so I have to credit Cabelas for their flexibility. Bob
24 January 2006, 02:21
Chisana
I learned the hard way. Pass on any used double gun or rifle where the seller will not let a competent gunsmith perform a pre sale inspection. James Flynn is well qualified to do this sort of inspection as well as repairs/restoration.

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24 January 2006, 08:06
470CapstickA2
Bob... if you wouldn't have bought that Hollis, I was chompin at the bit... hope it serves you well...

Al


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24 January 2006, 20:59
bobc
I'll pick it up at DSC this week. Rusty put me on it, and I was able to move quickly. I quickly realized it would disappear if I didn't get to it asap. bob
27 January 2006, 09:29
BigFiveJack
How about some Pic's for us out here? wave

All the best with it.



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28 January 2006, 21:19
nopride2
Nick Makinson
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Dave
28 January 2006, 21:45
LJS
Ken Owens is very knowlegeable about old doubles also.
29 January 2006, 01:46
husky
quote:
Originally posted by Rusty:
Perhaps we should post a list of Gunsmiths that are capable of checking/repairing a double rifle?

JJ Perodeau, Champlin Firearms, Enid, OK.


P O Stenmark, Hjoggböleliden, Norrland
http://www.hjoggbole.nu/foretag/kolvmakeri/kolvmak.html

Husky




30 January 2006, 03:04
Rusty
Pictures of BobC and his A. Hollis and Son 450/400 3 inch. I wonder why he is smil Cooling?




Rusty
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DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
30 January 2006, 07:16
bobc
Still smiling. Just got done cleaning the bores for the first time. I was very lucky to have Rusty and 400 NE advising me on a first purchase. I had a great experience working with Cabelas on this purchase. We agreed on an inspection and a repair allowance with JJ. It took 5 weeks, but money and time well spent. In retrospect, I am very dubious of the usual 3 day inspection period on a purchase of an old double, at today's prices. Get some good mentors and insist on a competent inspection. Bob