Aside from the possibility that the 9.3 is too anemic for anything bigger than squirrels, I am quite happy with its right/left accuarcy from the first two quick shots.



I hope all the other new Chapuis owners are experiencing same.

I'd be a happy camper with it too as you've had no problems with finding a good load that regulates.

Congrats!

Will ...you're breaking my heart.

Will!

I think you just got lucky with the first two shots. Let's see you do it again.




Nice shooting!


465H&H

Will, Just received my new Chapuis 9.3 and shot a 1/2 group at fifty yds with the Norma 286g load. I have some of the Woodleigh 320g solids I'll give my rifle the same medicine you loaded yours with and see if it shoots anywhere close to yours. Your's is definately a keeper.

Little heavy for the caliber, isn't it Will?

tree squirrels or ground squirrels...?

Rich
DRSS

seriously, that is a butt-kicking (on the front end) load and awesome accuracy.

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Originally posted by DB Bill:
Will ...you're breaking my heart.

Sorry. I'm sure yours will be even better.

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
Will!

I think you just got lucky with the first two shots. Let's see you do it again.





Nice shooting!


465H&H

Of course it could have been an accident. If the next two aren't as good you'll never hear about it!

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Originally posted by Rusty:
Little heavy for the caliber, isn't it Will?

Only because those are the heaviest I can get! Heavy for caliber = penetration.

NO, I mean the rifle not the bullet weight.

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Originally posted by Rusty:
NO, I mean the rifle not the bullet weight.

Okay, I'm dense.

At 7.30 lbs. it is a touch on the heavy side!, but it will do. It is probably physically impossible for the 450/400 to be built that light, but they should kick about the same.

Be honest Rusty, wouldn't you like that 450/400 to be as light as that Chapuis 9.3x74R of yours?

Will, I ordered my Searcy double rifle in the new round action in both 450-400, 3" and 375 Fl. Mg.. Butch says he can make the rifle weigh 8-8.5 lbs. Is that too light for the 400????I can handle the 500 Jeffery OK. I think the rifle should hold together well for as much as I will shoot it in the next 10 or so years. What do you guys think?

If you can handle the 500 Jeffery, the sky is the limit!

I talked to Butch (I shouldn't admit this, but...) a couple times about the 450/400. I asked why the thing couldn't be made to about 8 1/2 lbs. He started going on about too much twist or torgue or something. It had to be 9 1/2 lbs. The first time I gave him a look like he was full of it and the second time he hung up the phone on me! I didn't know I had that effect on people.

Maybe he changed his mind.

Will
Congratulations on your Chapuis.

Please shoot it at 50, 75 and 100 yards, and let us know the results.

PS are you going to scope it??

The Leupold 2.5-8 makes a compact rig, but I must say I like the Swarovski 1.5-6 with the illuminated circle dot better. I have both sighted in, I use the pivot mount.

It goes back to zero 100%.

Geez Bill, if 25 yards is as far as it will shoot, I'd send it back.
-----------------------------------------------
"Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."

No, Will! I don't! I'm very happy with my 10 lb. 450/400 3 inch. After shooting the Chapuis off the bench I wished it weighed 10 lbs.

I just wanted to know if you were happy with you overweight per caliber rifle. I know some guys who wouldn't own an over weight per caliber rifle.

NE450#2,

As long as I own it, or more specifically, when I use it, it will only be at about 25 yards or less. Sorry, no scope. I'll leave all that for the next owner!

Will
What do you plan on hunting with it?

And what bullet will you use?

Will already stated it's a little anemic for much game above squirrels. The hunting list for game three pounds and under is endless, Will what's on your menu?

If the opportunity comes up, a cow elephant. We'll see.

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Originally posted by Will:
Aside from the possibility that the 9.3 is too anemic for anything bigger than squirrels, I am quite happy with its right/left accuarcy from the first two quick shots.



I hope all the other new Chapuis owners are experiencing same.

Sorry Will. not impressed. If that is actually where the rifle shoots then you are 4" high and low and 2 inches crossing at 100 yards.

Too fast for that bullet. Why not shoot what it was made for? If you want a 360#2 than buy one of those.

Will, Thanks for the load info on the 320 grain Woodleigh solids (Norma brass, 56g, R-15, although I used a WLR instead of F215 primer) at 25yds standing I shot a 1.25 inch parallel group (no scope). With these bullets and the exceptional sectional density - penetration, penetration. Will, with this lethal combo you could shoot through two + elephant cows. FYI I got a 5/8 inch group with Norma brass, WLR primer, 300 grain Swifts using 59 grains IMR 4831 (could not get the R-15 to regulate as well in my rifle with this bullet).

Will,
I really like the Kahles 1.1X4 I put on my Chapuis. The illuminated circle dot is nice.

Will
It should work very good on a cow elephant for sure.

If you look at Will's target, one thing should stand out.... 25 yards OFFHAND, within 2 SECONDS....

He is probably [Will I do not want to be speaking for you...] not concerned how his double shoots off the bench., but how it shoots when fired from the field position he is planning on using it from.

Gator1,

Not to be argumentative but I really don't care what it is doing at 50 yards, at 100 yards, etc.

If when I throw the thing to my shoulder and it hits within that 2" circle I'm done.

I wanted to just find the load to give me the velocity I wanted, not to tweak the loads until they were parallel, shooting parallel at 300 yards, etc. All I have proven is that the sights are "on" for the first shot (the right barrel) and the left is shooting in about the same place, within the 2" circle anyway. That is what I hoped for and that is what I got.

I'll let the next owner worry about all the regulation stuff.

What is the consensus here about the 320 grain bullet in 9.3x74? My impression is that the 320 at 2300fps may be a little stiff? I have been sticking with the 270 Speers and the 286 Woodleighs, figuring that was what the cartridge was designed for. Am I missing something by not trying the 320?
Peter.

Peter
I have had excellent results with 286gr bullets in my 9,3x74R.

The only thing that worries me about the 320 gr bullets is will they be stabilized enough???

Wills targets tend to indicate they are stable.

I do know that the 286 Woodleigh Solid will shoot through a cow elephants head on a side brain shot at 5 yards.

I see Wills logic.
However I think he should test his gun at 50 75 and 100 yards as you never know when you might WANT to, or NEED to make a longer shot.

Also If he does not scope it, and use it for plains game, or even deer and pigs here in the US, he will never learn the true capabilities of a scoped double in 9,3x74R.

Will!

First your trying 550 grain Woodleighs in your Lott and now 320 grain Woodleighs in your 9.3X74. Have I converted you to a heavy for caliber bullet fan?

465H&H

Congratulations...extractors or ejectors?

Would be a good group at 25 yards- with a .45 ACP. I don't know if you can tell what it will do at 50 and 100, regulation may be way off.

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Originally posted by Gator1:

quote:

Originally posted by Will:
Aside from the possibility that the 9.3 is too anemic for anything bigger than squirrels, I am quite happy with its right/left accuarcy from the first two quick shots.



I hope all the other new Chapuis owners are experiencing same.

Sorry Will. not impressed. If that is actually where the rifle shoots then you are 4" high and low and 2 inches crossing at 100 yards.

Too fast for that bullet. Why not shoot what it was made for? If you want a 360#2 than buy one of those.

Gator1, the diagnosis of Will's load depends where the POA was! A 6 O'clock hold the rounds would be very high, This would indicate the load was too slow, not to fast.

If the load were too fast this would account for the crossing,and would tend to indicate a center hold on the target, not a 6 O'Clock hold. Too slow would make them shoot high, but they would shoot wide, not crossing however, the rounds are crossing, and slightly low, from a center hold!

Of course with only two shots fired, both could be pulled shots, and even two shots from each barrel is not enough, to make a definite call on a regulating load. One thing for sure, he is close!

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Originally posted by mouse93:
Congratulations...extractors or ejectors?

I got the point: https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/...75?r=5581075#5581075

320grn bullets from a 9.3x74R at MV2300.
Man thats fast!
ozhunter