I have just aquired a very sweet Holland & Holland DR in .375 Flanged, fitted with a small Swarovski scope in QD mount. She is a dream to shoot, I have just started to work up my reloads. I am curious what other users of this caliber have found to be their pet load, powder and bullets. I will post photos tomorrow.

Well CONGRATULATIONS!!! Feel free to show it off
with a video link on youtube or with some stills!!!

John

Very much looking forward to the pix. Congrats!!

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Originally posted by John Hipwell:
I have just aquired a very sweet Holland & Holland DR in .375 Flanged, fitted with a small Swarovski scope in QD mount. She is a dream to shoot, I have just started to work up my reloads. I am curious what other users of this caliber have found to be their pet load, powder and bullets. I will post photos tomorrow.

I am beyond being jealous!

465H&H

Massive 8 Bore, medium .470 NE and small .375 Flanged


Holland & Holland is only 9 ½ lb without scope.


The Manton 8 Bore shows up the slim figure of the H&H

Not much to say as I am speechless..

WOW and CONGRATULATIONS! What a sexy little rifle.

Very nice indeed.

Good pick up.

72 grains IMR4350 behind a 300 grain woodleigh bullet. The Honardy RN also seems to work well in my rifle.

Jackie Gleason says it best.
"How SWEET IT IS!!!!!"

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Originally posted by reddy375:
72 grains IMR4350 behind a 300 grain woodleigh bullet. The Honardy RN also seems to work well in my rifle.

Thanks, it seems like you and I are the only ones to reload for this classic. What MV are you getting? and what barrel length? Have you found any differance between the Woodleigh PP verse the RN?

Lovely rifle and a great battery. good luck.

John, very nice. Congrats!

What year was the gun completed? I have a .240 flanged as well as a .500/.465 both completed in 1936.

.................NOW! There are three double rifles I would love to own!
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Thanks for all the complements. The H&H is a delight to shoot, surprisingly the recoil feels a lot lighter than my 9.3 Merkel. I haven’t got my load finalised but both barrels have shot 2 rds into less than an inch at 100 yds from the bench but I still have some work to do to pull my barrel groups together, they started at 7 inches we are down to 3 inches but I want this rifle shooting one ragged hole at 100 yds. I think she will be a fantastic light rifle for Africa, backing up my 8 Bore or my .470.

I haven’t researched the year of manufacture, she is serial # 19327, the scope was fitted by Champlin’s, so she must have had a US owner at one time

I want a 375 Flanged. How come components have to be soooo expensive? Dies and brass. Dang. Oh, and hard to come by. Did only H&H make them?

In the past only H&H made 375 H&H flanged magnums so they are pretty rare to come by in older DRs. Nowadays I believe most of the new DR manufacturers offer it. Even though I have one and have used it extensively, I think the 9.3x74 is probably a better choice today, due to availability of ammo, reloading components etc. The rifles are built lighter also that the 375F.

For those looking Keith Kearcher has a pretty little Wm. Evans on Guns International...a mirror image of the one I sold....that was a mistake!!
Still looking for another!!
Huntington's in Oroville CA can supply brass as well as David Little at Kynoch in London-or Midway USA and RCBS dies at a reasonable cost.
I shot Trohpy Bonded 300's in mine...great shooter!!...don't remember the load??
Congratulations on your new piece!!

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Originally posted by reddy375:
In the past only H&H made 375 H&H flanged magnums so they are pretty rare to come by in older DRs.

Where did you get that gem of a piece of information from ?

Holland was, as expected, the most prolific but the above is not true, other makers made or had made (ie Webley) DR's in 375 Flanged magnum.

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John,

Believe you would be well-advised to write to The Gun Room at H&H in London to get a letter on your very lovely gun.

I suspect that it is a .375 flanged nitroexpress that has been rechambered into a .375 flanged magnum nitroexpress; i.e. the chamber increased from 2-1/2 inches to 2.94 inches. The logic:
-- the gun is what used to be called a No. 3 grade (I have a .303 double that looks exactly like it made in late 1897).
--The earlier .375 flanged nitroexpress used cordite and came out in 1899.
--According to Dallas' book on H&H, the serial numbers that include 193XX are royals all made before 1912. This gun is clearly not a royal so I wonder if, perhaps, it is not s/n 195XX??? which would fit it among a range of rifles in the same period; i.e. up to 1911.

The key on the serial numbers is that the .375 flanged magnum nitroexpress and its rimless brother both came out in 1912.

Perhaps, John, you could post a photo of the proof marks and that should be definitive.

Regards, Tim

Thank you Tim for your very astute comments.

I don’t believe the previous owner had had this rifle for long, so I have no real history on her. He said that he had been told that she was originally chambered in the .375 Flanged. I expected to see some over stamps and re-proofing but there are none. I can’t find my reference book on proofs and have been too busy t look hard. I purchased the rifle as she “ looked right and felt good” it was more a gut feeling. This worked for me in the past when I picked up my CB Vaughan .470, which turned out to be built by Lenard, she is as tight as a bank vault and has never let me down in Africa.

The serial number is very clearly 19327. She is certainly (now) chambered for the .375 Flanged magnum and shows great potential to be a real tack driver. At 100 yds from the bench with the scope I am getting two rd barrel groups of ½ inch, they are still 2 inches apart. This is with 300 gr bullets was she re-regulated when she was rechambered? Anyway if I can get those individual barrel groups superimposed she will have a place in my heart. She will then be my ideal back up for my 8 Bore and .470.

I look forward to hearing more from you.

Great photos.

The "R" with crown above and the BAR give it away as a reproof.

Very nice gun though.

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Originally posted by 500N:
Great photos.

The "R" with crown above and the BAR give it away as a reproof.

Very nice gun though.

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Agreed, but I am puzzeled why no earlier markings?

Agreed, John. Proof marks are a puzzle. No note of 300 gr. bullet with the 1904 London Nitro proof. The "mag" seems in a different font than the .375. The citation for BAR is far more modern. Wonder if some earlier marks were just struck off... Still you've a proof for over 50K psi and a wonderful rifle, so load for what regulates and let's see pix of the results.

I use IMR 4350 for my .375 flanged magnum and, as you have already had recommended, start with 72 or 71 gr and see what's what...

Agreed that there's no doubt about the s/n so, and no surprise, Dallas does not have it all right in his list of serial numbers as the rifle is not a royal...

Best, Tim

Remember the 375 2 1/2" has a much different twist than the Flanged Mag. You might want to check that. If you aren't stabilizing the heavier bullets, that might be why...but it sounds like you are getting good accuracy with the loads you have used?