Verney-Carron 450NE

Practically brand new.. Shoots like a dream!!

Now I need to head back to the Caprivi and shoot another Elephant :-)

Very nice. You'll never wear out that that triple lock-up.

Congrats! Would love to hear load details if you feel like sharing. Hope you get that elephant!

Very nice looking gun. Same long-tang on the top of the wrist?

Beautiful!

Outstanding!

Going to load up a bunch of ammo to play around with tomorrow..

The best part is I got dies and 140 rounds of new brass with the gun and another AR member sold me 200 more rounds of new brass and a buddy sold me 100 Barnes TSX bullets, so.. I have trees to shoot down :-)

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Originally posted by mt Al:
Congrats! Would love to hear load details if you feel like sharing. Hope you get that elephant!

I have a load from a friend for the 350 Barnes TSX for practice that he shoots

350gr Barnes TSX
92gr IMR 4831
Rem primers
Hornady brass

Great Caliber...
Have used RL15 with filler, H4350 and H4831.. settled on H4350 behind CEB 480 Solids and 450 Raptors

Beautiful. Does VC use the same Blitz action lock up system as Chapuis?

I have some woodleigh and cutting edge solids for the 450 if you interested pm me

Nice!!

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Beautiful. Does VC use the same Blitz action lock up system as Chapuis?

VC uses a 3 lug system.

Love those VC's Congrats

Awesome rifle. Happy hunting !

Very nice and in THE classic cartridge in my humble opinion.

Very nice AND I had to google Robert Heinlein.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Beautiful. Does VC use the same Blitz action lock up system as Chapuis?

VC uses a 3 lug system.

How much strength is gained by 3 lugs? Seems to me that it might be a more difficult to fit with little gain in strength. IIRC there is still only one underbolt.

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Originally posted by bghntr416:
Very nice AND I had to google Robert Heinlein.

I grok.

Scott that looks great! Could you post some pics of the mount for that Docter sight and where it attaches to the double if possible please?

I saw that rifle on GB for several weeks. It was a great deal (under $13k if I remember correctly) and even better if you have a shorter LOP. And I agree that the .450 NE is one sweet cartridge!

Lovely double in a great caliber.

That'll hit the heck out of 'em!

Beautiful rifle.....congrats!!!

Lets go to Zambia and get a couple of buffalews

IMR 4831 is the powder you should try first.

RL 19 should work great. Also has less felt recoil in my opinion.

A good deer/pig load that works well in my VC .450 is 48 gr. IMR4198 with backer rod or Dacron filler with 300 to 325 gr. bullets.

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Originally posted by degoins:
A good deer/pig load that works well in my VC .450 is 48 gr. IMR4198 with backer rod or Dacron filler with 300 to 325 gr. bullets.

This interests me a lot! I have never loaded anything using filler and need to learn how.. I want to shoot the 300 / 325 gr. bullets..

Scott, is your new rifle on the Round Body action? Looks like it from the photo. That's what mine is BTW. Looks like you have the same semi-splinter fore-end as well like mine, and the wood on ours is very similar. I think you'll be happy with that rifle for a long time.

My VC is the one on the bottom sporting its new Trijicon red dot.

That’s a real beauty!
After you cut down a few trees with it, we’ll be looking forward the the hunting report!

Hello Scott. You are sure to like your VC 450NE. I too am a really big VC fan ..

this is my 3rd VC double .. its a 470NE.


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....... and this is my 600NE. ..... Verney Carron builds really great double rifles for the money.

I never tire of looking at that magnificent .600

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Originally posted by Scott Powell:

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Originally posted by degoins:
A good deer/pig load that works well in my VC .450 is 48 gr. IMR4198 with backer rod or Dacron filler with 300 to 325 gr. bullets.

This interests me a lot! I have never loaded anything using filler and need to learn how.. I want to shoot the 300 / 325 gr. bullets..

I use 13 grs. of Dacron and push it down the case with a pencil until it's on top of the powder, then seat the bullet on top. With the backer rod, I use 5/8" diameter and measure from the powder in the case to where the bottom of the seated bullet will be. Cut to length then push that into the case the same as with the Dacron. The backer rod is quicker and easier.

It would be impolite for me to say" Dam that's a nice rifle, I am jealous" so I won't.

my goal is to one day own a Verney Carron

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Originally posted by degoins:

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Originally posted by Scott Powell:

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Originally posted by degoins:
A good deer/pig load that works well in my VC .450 is 48 gr. IMR4198 with backer rod or Dacron filler with 300 to 325 gr. bullets.

This interests me a lot! I have never loaded anything using filler and need to learn how.. I want to shoot the 300 / 325 gr. bullets..

I use 13 grs. of Dacron and push it down the case with a pencil until it's on top of the powder, then seat the bullet on top. With the backer rod, I use 5/8" diameter and measure from the powder in the case to where the bottom of the seated bullet will be. Cut to length then push that into the case the same as with the Dacron. The backer rod is quicker and easier.

So... exactly what is backer rod and where can you buy it?

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Originally posted by Scott Powell:
So... exactly what is backer rod and where can you buy it?

Backing rod is a closed cell foam rope that comes is different diameters .. 1/4" .. 3/8" .. 1/2" .. 5/8" .. 3/4" ... and 1" ... it is used to fill the gap around window frames so you don't have to use so much calk. It s available in most hardware stores or from Amazon. It comes in lengths of 25 feet to 100 feet rolls. I use it as a filler in most of my big bore cartridges where there is less than 75 percent loading density of powder in the case. It does a great job filling the space and weighs very little compared to other fillers. For example: I use a 1" long piece of 1/2" diameter in a 470NE loading and it only weighs about 2 grains ... and it is totally consumed when fired. Its the same thing that Kynoch uses in Nitro-for-black cartridges.

since you have 350gr bullets are you familiar with the 75% rule?.... 75% of 480gr is 360gr if you load your 350gr bullet on top of your load of choice for your 480gr bullet you will get pretty much same point of aim point of impact ...
If you are interested I also have a 3031 load using filler under a 480gr bullet doing 1900fps out of my gun that i got from George Caswell Champlin Arms

the other advantage to faom over dacron is less pressure

Saw this post and thought a good place to ask this question. My last consulting contract had we in ST. Etienne quite a bit. I got to know the guys at VC quite well. If someone on here bought a 600NE i got to shoot your rifle into regulation. I was just talking to a colleague there and he was certain that the Chinese had bought VC. Anyone know the facts? They also made a lot of tactical guns which i got to advise them on. Send me a PM if you want. the Fking Chinese are buying way too much of the west.

I would love to get Verne carron to build me a “funeral grade” double, all black with minimal engraving.