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Cartridge Drawing .400/.360
04 March 2012, 05:59
MJinesCartridge Drawing .400/.360
Anyone have a cartridge drawing of the .400/.360 cartridge or know where I can find one? Thanks.
Mike
04 March 2012, 06:37
Mike Brooks http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk/If you need the measurements Donnellys Cartridge Conversions shows 1 of the two versions.
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04 March 2012, 09:56
BayouBobCan't find a drawing but here are the dimensions from "Cartridges of the World." Bullet dia. .358, neck dia. .375, shoulder dia. .437, base dia. .470, rim dia. .590, case length 2.75, cartridge length 3.59 No mid lengths such as neck length or shoulder angle are listed. There is a Purdy version listed with a .367 bullet diameter as well but no other dimensions.
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04 March 2012, 10:16
Mike BrooksBut there were two different ones with that name.. Purdy and the Westley Richards. He didn't mention what he wants.
Edit;Actually there are 6 differnt ones listed!
1 Purdy 2 3/4"
2 Purdy 2 3/8"
3 The Westley Richards
4 the WR rimless
5 the Fraser
6 the Evans
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04 March 2012, 17:22
MJinesSorry, it is the more common Purdey.
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04 March 2012, 20:57
nitro450expMike
No drawing but I can give you measurments from actual sample, as found in Bill Flemmings book
British Sporting cartridges.
PM if you would like them.
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04 March 2012, 22:25
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Sorry, it is the more common Purdey.
Mike I think Mark Cash has a 400/360 purdey chambered double rifle! give him a call. If you don't have his number I'll send it to you in an E=mail if you want, but I don't want to post it here!
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05 March 2012, 20:26
470EvansDid Mike buy a new toy, a Lang perhaps?
05 March 2012, 20:54
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05 March 2012, 21:02
470EvansNice rifle, enjoy it. If you need help on loads let me know.
06 March 2012, 03:18
nitro450expMike
This what I got:
400/360 Purdey
400/360 Nitro Purdey
400/360 Nitro WR
400/360 Nitro Fraser
400/360 Nitro Evans
400/360 WR Rimless
400/360 Nitro Purdey dimensions
Case length
2.735 Min
2.750 Max
Rim Dia.
0.515 Min
0.535 Max
Rim Thk.
0.045 Min
0.050 Max
Base Dia.
0.467 Min
0.471 Max
Shoulder.
0.412 Min
0.419 Max
Mouth.
0.387 Min
0.390 Max
Bullet.
0.366 Min
0.369 Max
OAL.
3.507 Min
3.520 Max
Sorry no details on shoulder position length or angle.
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06 March 2012, 05:52
470EvansCongratulations Mike,
Great rifle and great cartridge. Unfortunately, it was maligned by Taylor for reasons mainly related to bullets available at the time he didn't like.
It was designed as an alternate to the 303 and offered a 50% heavier bullet with similar velocity, what's not to like?
Based on the number of 400/360 rifles you'll see it was very popular, especially in the 400/360 Purdey.
Enjoy
06 March 2012, 06:23
MJinesThanks Jim, and thanks nitro450exp for the cartridge information. Jim, if you have load information you would share that would be great. George gave me a load of 40 grains of IMR3031, F210 and 286 grain SP. I loaded some yesterday. Pretty cartridge. I am guessing it would be a great plainsgame cartridge, and would probably be good for leopard. Of course, for deer and hogs it should be just the ticket.
Mike
06 March 2012, 06:28
470EvansI use 54- 56 grs of IMR 4350 in my Evans 360 with the Woodleigh 286 soft depending on the powder lot with Fed 210 and Horneber brass. Gets about 2000 fps. Did brass come with it?
06 March 2012, 06:33
MJinesYes, a bunch of Horneber brass (guessing about 80-100 pieces) along with RCBS dies and a trim die. Thanks for the IMR4350 info. I will report back on how the IMR3031 performs.
Mike
06 March 2012, 07:07
Todd WilliamsMike,
Any pictures of the rifle / cartridges. .366 to .369 286gr bullet sounds similar to the 9.3X74R in performance? Maybe more style points!
06 March 2012, 07:36
MJinesHere are some pictures of the rifle. Will have to snap some of the cartridges. Look like a 9.3x74R only shorter.
http://www.champlinarms.com/De...StyleID=3&GunID=2166
Mike
06 March 2012, 10:09
HuviusThat is a nice rifle.
IMO, the 400/360 is just about the perfect North American game rifle. Anything from coyotes to deer to elk to moose to black bear can be handled with the 400/360.
Yes, it is quite similar to the 9.3X74 and many English rifles were rechambered to the 9.3 but ballistically they must be pretty darn close to each other.
Also similar to the 400/350 Rigby rimmed. I have a Westley double in 400/350 No.2 which I hope to have up and running pretty soon. Also have a Greener in 360 No.2 which is the big boy of the 360's. Just love the 360 no.2!
06 March 2012, 22:34
Todd WilliamsVery Nice Mike,
Thanks for posting the pics. You have some nice toys!

08 March 2012, 21:10
Bill/OregonOooooooooh ... So nice, Mike!
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