Plinker, he rides ON my lap while I'm driving, and the seat belt isn't long enough to fit us both. I drive with the seat as far back as it will go anyway. On that trip, I was driving a '94 Dodge Caravan, now I'm driving a '03 Chevy Impalla. I sure was glad that in 247 miles (one way, 494 round trip) of driving that day, I didn't see one state trooper or local cop!!! Unfortunately, Frank is getting big enough that we both don't fit in the drivers seat without me getting a hand full of wool when I turn the wheel, so I guess OUR road trips are at an end. Too bad, it was such fun.