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I have a local shop selling new a-bolts at a good price, i thought about getting a 270 win. just to put in the safe. Even though I already have a 257 Roberts and 25-06, I shoot the 115 and 120gr bullets in the 25-06, Is there enough difference between the two with the 120 and 130's? I once owned a 270 and killed a few deer with it every one i shot were dead in its tracks shooting factory 130gr core-lokts back then. Since then I am a dedicated reloader and can take advantage of all the wide selections of great bullets available. I will only be hunting whitetail deer in Alabama, some shots may range 300-400yds, this is where the 270 will be a bit better with the 140's but the 06 with 120's will get it done also.
 
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Of course you do.

And you probably deserve it also.

If you're married, tell your wife I said it was OK.

And while you're at it, I think you need a new scope.

Probably a range finder also since you're now gonna be reaching way out to touch something.

Probably will need a new skinner now for all that extra venison.

Feel better now? dancing

Be sure and post pix of all your new stuff.

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I fine caliber for sure. Never owned one or care to own one. Always had it covered by a 280 or 7x64.

For Alabamy, get a 7-08
 
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I fine caliber for sure. Never owned one or care to own one. Always had it covered by a 280 or 7x64.

For Alabamy, get a 7-08


Definitely need a 7mm-08 also.

Probably some 10 x 42 Lieca Binocs to see those antlers way out there also.

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Posts: 23752 | Location: Pearland, Tx,, USA | Registered: 10 September 2001Reply With Quote
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I appreciate the confidence building, the 270 is indeed a great cartridge and components are readily available, I already have spare scopes and bino's, and monarch 1200 rangefinder will only need some 140gr SST's, powder,brass and primers is on the shelf. I will let the wife know next year when she see's it and says where did you get that gun, I'll say it's the same one I always had just never get it out much.
 
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All kidding aside. If you can get them at a good price, you can enjoy them and send them down the road, sometimes at a profit. Even if you lose $50, you probably spend that much taking the wife to dinner and a movie. Think of how much fun you can have dreaming about the stuff you're gonna kill with that A-bolt. Should you need the cash, you can turn a rifle into money in minutes.

FWIW, my go to load for the 270 win is 130 gr. Nosler Ballistic tips over 60 gr. H-4831 SC.

Here is an old Winchester Push feed chambered in 270 Win. It has a heavy Shilen barrel crowned at 26", bedded, 2 lb. trigger. Shoots bugholes. It had a surface crack in the wrist of the stock. Picked it up cheap. Probably never sell it cause of the way it shoots.



and one more, a Remmy in 270.



Death ray on porkers here in Texas (and a two-fer at that). Probably work on your deer.

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Nice rifle indeed, the reason I stay with .25 cal is that I have so much inventory in bullets and brass, I have alot of experience through the years with 25-06. Back when supplies were half the cost I used to shoot couple hundred rounds a weekend @ distance out to 1020 yards, I bought probably 2000 brass in 25-06, over the years I have changed rifles a few times but never calibers. All I want the 270 for would be hunting, I could purchase a couple hundred bullets and be set for a few years.
 
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I happen to like the 25's also, but then I'm a gun whore. I've owned 25's in the 250 Savage, 257 Bob, 25-06 and the 257 Roy. My current fav is a Cooper Model 52 Jackson Game in 25-06. Its a killer. I'm shooting the 110 gr. Accubonds out of it over a decent load of RL-19. For our whitetails it is a stellar performer.

Best to you and yours.

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One day I would like to own a Cooper 52 JG they are very nice rifles, I also want to have a custom built,for now I guess I will stay on the lower end of things.
 
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Yes, by God, you need a 270! Every one should have a 270... its just....um.. well you need one! I killed my first deer with a 270, 27 years ago come to think of it. Heck, thats reason enough for you to get one or me to buy another. Big Grin


30+ years experience tells me that perfection hit at .264. Others are adequate but anything before or after is wishful thinking.
 
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One day I would like to own a Cooper 52 JG they are very nice rifles, I also want to have a custom built,for now I guess I will stay on the lower end of things.


Yes they are.....




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You don't need a .270.

You need at least one for every one in the house, then a couple more.
 
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The 270 WCF is one of the greatest hunting calibres, especially for the lower 48 States.

Do you need one??? Depends, IF you have a good 308 you do not...

Any thing I could do with a 270 I have done with a 308...
But I am a 308 kind of guy.
That does not take anything away from a 270, or a 280 or 30/06 for that matter.


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What's need got to do with anything? If you want a 270 Win go get one.
 
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Do I need a 270 winchester?

If you have to ask that question......you should not be allowed to own any guns at all.....Of course you do!


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IMHO the answer is NO. The Roberts and 25/06 have your Alabama Whitetails covered.
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If all you're ever going to hunt is whitetails, then no, you don't need a .270 when you already have a .257 Roberts and a .25-06.

IMO, I'd skip over the .270 in favor of a .30-06 since you already have two fast/flat shooting deer cartridges in your battery. Then you'll have something that works great on deer but can handle elk, moose, and bear if you ever decide to hunt them.
 
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Yes you need the .270. What you don't need is the 25-06. The .257 Roberts has that covered well. Buy the .270 and trade the 25-06 for something you don't have covered.
 
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The Japanese-made A-bolt has become a very common rifle that has been sold in large numbers, so you're not likely to experience any useful monetary appreciation on it, regardless of how cheap your dealer is selling them.

While the .270 is more versatile than your .25-06, it is no more effective for whitetails. Unless you anticipate going after larger game like elk, then your .25-06 will do everything to a whitetail that a .270 would. If you do anticipate hunting something like elk, then a .30-06 is an even better choice.

In terms of making your arsenal cover a wider range of game, adding a .270 doesn't do much. In terms of adding an additional excellent whitetail gun, it will do that, and with flying colors.
 
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If you want it, you can surely figure out that it is really a need, not a want. However, you can do yourself a favor by getting a .280 instead. You can thank me later.


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Absolutely Yes
 
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Since you have a 25-06 you don't need a .270 to shoot Alabama deer..As to killing power and trajectory their is so little difference between any of the med calibers from the 25-06 to the 7 magnum that one couldn't tell any difference in the field, the difference is only on paper, but some put a lot of stock in paper balistics..


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Since you have a 25-06 you don't need a .270 to shoot Alabama deer.


Ray,
good thing I live in Texas. I'd hate to think I didn't neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed a .270 Win.

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YES

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I am very fond of the 270. If you don't have one, get one even though you don't need it.


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What's need got to do with anything? If you want a 270 Win go get one.


Clem speaks the truth. If you want it, buy it and enjoy it.



 
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I might as well put my .30 worth..... I've hunted muley, elk, even a few coyotes, each year..... I'm 63yrs old and gettin' stoved up, but I'll hunt till I die and I'll use my Remington 700LH (lefty-bdl). I've taken 30 Mule and half dozen Elk. All the deer were taken with the 130 Sierra BTS and a load previously mentioned, the Elk were taken with 140gr'ers --- some very long shots, some short, little recoil, good knock down, great gun.


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Me and Jack think you should get a .270Win. Killer cartridge.

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Yes. Get one! Big Grin
 
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I have a local shop selling new a-bolts at a good price, i thought about getting a 270 win. just to put in the safe. Even though I already have a 257 Roberts and 25-06, I shoot the 115 and 120gr bullets in the 25-06, Is there enough difference between the two with the 120 and 130's? I once owned a 270 and killed a few deer with it every one i shot were dead in its tracks shooting factory 130gr core-lokts back then. Since then I am a dedicated reloader and can take advantage of all the wide selections of great bullets available. I will only be hunting whitetail deer in Alabama, some shots may range 300-400yds, this is where the 270 will be a bit better with the 140's but the 06 with 120's will get it done also.


In case you haven't noticed, this site is loaded with gun whores. The vast majority of us will cheer you on to buy more rifles so we seem normal. Big Grin



 
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From the fall of 1952 thru the mid 60s all I used was a Win Mdl 70 270 Win rifle. That old 270 has taken pronghorn , mule deer, elk , and other unwonted critters. I still own it. Over the years I have tryed out various brands of rifles and cartridges on big game including a Ruger No 1 and a 700 Rem 25-06 . You my not need a 270 Win rifle but how will you know how fun it is shooting a 270 unless you get one.
 
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By all means every guy should have a new rifle every now and then. A 270 wouldn't be on my list but 7-08, or 280 Ackley sure would, and maybe a 30-06.


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It's absolutely required if you are an American hunter to have owned a 270 Winchester at some time during your life. Preferably it would be a Model 70. You are sacreligious if you don't. Only other two requirements I know of is you must have also owned at least one 30-30 and one 30-06. If you haven't met these requirements you will be denied entry.


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I brought my frist 270 last year just because I had dies and brass laying around.

haven't shot any thing yet with it.

I might take it to TX. for pigs.
 
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PDS,

I think that malady is not uncommon among rifle looneys. I've purchased several rifles due to the fact that I had dies, brass and even loaded bullets, but no rifle to match.

Best

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I currently have two 270s. I like the cal so much I have a Krieger, Lilja, and Shilen preturned stainless blanks in the safe. I have a 270 being built right now in fact and it should be done any time. It has a Lilja 3 groove. Out of 4 rifles built with identical Lilja barrels, they all shoot 1/2 MOA, and 2 of those do that with factory ammo.

I think I'll use the Krieger to build a 270 Weatherby since I've never had one of those, however.


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i never wanted one but somehow I managed to accumulate 5 of them. The Husky and the Win 70 shoot pretty well. The others are not minute of angle but are "minute of whitetail".


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I have a local shop selling new a-bolts at a good price, i thought about getting a 270 win. just to put in the safe. Even though I already have a 257 Roberts and 25-06, I shoot the 115 and 120gr bullets in the 25-06, Is there enough difference between the two with the 120 and 130's? I once owned a 270 and killed a few deer with it every one i shot were dead in its tracks shooting factory 130gr core-lokts back then. Since then I am a dedicated reloader and can take advantage of all the wide selections of great bullets available. I will only be hunting whitetail deer in Alabama, some shots may range 300-400yds, this is where the 270 will be a bit better with the 140's but the 06 with 120's will get it done also.


In case you haven't noticed, this site is loaded with gun whores. The vast majority of us will cheer you on to buy more rifles so we seem normal. Big Grin


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Need and want are certainly two different things!


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Need and want are certainly two different things!


No they're not......
 
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