I lucked onto a good deal for a 25-06 Remington barrel for my R93 Blaser.



I have absolutely zilch experience with this cartridge; so lotsa questions.

The Remington Nickeled Brass, F/L Die Set (RCBS), Lee Case Length Trim Gauge, Stoney Point "Thingie" Gauge & Lee Factory Crimp Die have all arrived along with a box (50) Barnes 80 gr. TTSX's, Hornady 110 gr. Interbonds (100) and 400 Remington 100 gr. PSCPL's. Ought to get me started, anyway.

Brass has been run through the Die, mouths squared, champfered, primed (CCI 200's)
and I'm researching where I need to go from there w/H-4831SC, RL-22, H-1000, VVN-160 & VVN-560 available.

Anyone care to cast some expereinced insight into something suitable as a load for the 25-06 Remington from this juncture?

Thanks in advance ..... I'm envisioning an Atomic Death Ray Zapper load with the Barnes 80 gr. TTSX's but realize the 110 gr. Interbonds will deliver better B.C.

Don't expect book velocity from your short Blaser barrel.

As far as powder goes, I have found AA MagPro to yield the most speed with the best hunting accuracy in my 24" Colt/Sauer, from Barnes X 85gr up to 120 Sierra.

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short Blaser barrel

Dave,

Yes, it's got the standard 57.5cm (22.6") barrel, and it would be nice if that cartridge's barrel length was made in the 65cm, (25.6") magnum length but that's the way they come - I'll just have to live with it.

Thx for the response, sadly AA-Mag-Pro may be difficult to locate here .....

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H-4831SC, RL-22, H-1000, available.

any of these will work fine with 120 and 110 grain bullets.....You seem to have a bunch of 100 grain bullets and RL-19 and H-4350 will send them just fine.

I load one gun with a 20" barrel and get close to 3,000 FPS with 120 grain bullets.....RL-22 is a good bet for the bullets you list.

IMR-7828 will work too!

I have two 25/06's both with 24" barrels. With 100gr and110gr bulllets I get my best accuracy with IMR4831. RL17 and RL22 were acceptable, however 4831 was hands down the best.
GOOD LUCK and GOOD SHOOTING!!!

In Germany it should be easy to find Vihta Vuori N-160, N-165 and Norma MRP they will all give you great results with bullets 85-120 gr.

You should enjoy your 25-06 barrel, that is a great cartridge.

Myself and several friends have had the best all around results with all bullet weights using IMR 4831. I personally shoot it with all bullet weights from 75 to 100. My own gun does shoot heavy bullets (115-120's) best with IMR 7828.

In regard to the 80 grain Tipped TSX, it is very impressive. Just a couple of days back I used it in New Mexico for an antelope. I shot that buck at what was later measured at 293 yards. I hit him right where the neck joins the should as he was sort of facing me. The bullet went through and exited the opposite shoulder. Small entrance and exit wounds but devastastion inside. That buck never even kicked, just died on the spot.

The day before my dad shot one at about the same range using the 100 grain Tipped TSX in his .257 Wby Mag. He shot that buck in the spine and he too just dropped at the shot.

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Originally posted by Gerry:
I lucked onto a good deal for a 25-06 Remington barrel for my R93 Blaser.



I have absolutely zilch experience with this cartridge; so lotsa questions.

The Remington Nickeled Brass, F/L Die Set (RCBS), Lee Case Length Trim Gauge, Stoney Point "Thingie" Gauge & Lee Factory Crimp Die have all arrived along with a box (50) Barnes 80 gr. TTSX's, Hornady 110 gr. Interbonds (100) and 400 Remington 100 gr. PSCPL's. Ought to get me started, anyway.

Brass has been run through the Die, mouths squared, champfered, primed (CCI 200's)
and I'm researching where I need to go from there w/H-4831SC, RL-22, H-1000, VVN-160 & VVN-560 available.

Anyone care to cast some expereinced insight into something suitable as a load for the 25-06 Remington from this juncture?

Thanks in advance ..... I'm envisioning an Atomic Death Ray Zapper load with the Barnes 80 gr. TTSX's but realize the 110 gr. Interbonds will deliver better B.C.

Gerry,

Welcome to my world



I love the 25-06 so much I bought Claire one.

Now I have tried a few different bullets but I do stick to using 100 or 115gr Balistic tips, 110gr Accubonds or my favourite 115gr CT Silver tips.

I have also just started to use 100gr E-tips the accuracy is great and they take care of Muntjac but they do have a nasty habit of ricochet which is not good shooting on Norfolk flint.


I have used N560, N160, H4831sc, RE19 but have had best results with IMR4831 & IMR4350.
When the Sako had the factory sporter barrel still on it I could never make the book velocity, however now it has a 26" barrel attaining and even exceeding the book velocity is not an issue.

I have found best accuracy with Loads straight out of the Nolser Manual.

All of the 25-06's that I have owen or loaded for have all achieved the best groups with a big jump to rifling.

JMHO

There's no reason that the .25-06 won't perform with the "light weights" of 100 grains and under, but I usually reserve those for cartridges in the .250 Savage class. I like the 115 grain Nosler B.Tip in my .25-06 for whitetail-sized game, and IMR-7828 does an excellent job of driving it at about the same speed as a 130 grainer in a .270. If I ever use up my supply of Ballistic Tips I'll probably give the 110 grain Accubond a try.

Among the powders you list, I would have the most faith in H-4831. I've used this in a .25-284 (almost identical case capacity to the .25-06) with bullets of 75 and 87 grains with excellent results, and have also used the same bullets over N-160 with equally good results.

My .25-06 is a beautiful Sako Deluxe that is capable of shooting off gnat's whiskers, but I find the .270 superior for every usage except possibly varmint-sized critters. That's not a knock on the .25-06, just a caution not to expect something of it that it is not prepared to give.

Dave,

Thx for the directions to Nirvana .... (powder types - VVN-160 & VVN-560, I really like these two powders!)

I had the 110 Hornady Interbonds left over from a 250 Savage loading project for a Buddy - his old (Grandfather's) Savage Model 99 wouldn't even begin to stabilize them!

Regards to Claire!

Stonie,

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That's not a knock on the .25-06, just a caution not to expect something of it that it is not prepared to give.

That's why I appreciate this Forum - occaisionally you get an honest answer!

My 270 Winchester is a beautiful semi-custom Ruger #1 with AAA Fajen full-length wood. It's hefty to say the least and although I've taken it out of the safe a time or two and actually carried it to the High Seat - I've never killed an animal in my life with a 270 Winchester so I really don't have a comparison .....



Dave & Stonie,

Thx Guys - I appreciate the considerations .....

If you intend to use the 25-06 on animals greater than 90 # you should be thinking in terms of premiun bullets. roger

Yo Roger,



I was hoping to use it to replace my .243 Winchester for my annual forays to the UK, Fallow, Red Deer Hinds, Roe Deer; not monsters but certainly some over your suggested 90# limit.

Your suggestion sage - I will keep this in mind,
as Dave

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favourite 115gr CT Silver Tips.

above has been using 115 gr. premium bullet-oes and he knows what he's about for sure ....

I'll definately be attempting to see if I can get those 110 Hornady Interbonds to do me right.

I used to shoot my 25-06 with IMR-4831, 120gr Hornady soft point, at 3000fps. Accurate and slams deer. Punch this combo thru both lungs, avoid big bones, and very effective!

my two favorite powders for the 2506 are re19 and 4831sc. Re22 and 7828 are also worth trying.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
If you intend to use the 25-06 on animals greater than 90 # you should be thinking in terms of premiun bullets. roger

Actually the Hornady 120 HP is a great bullet for whitetails and mulies....

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by bartsche:
If you intend to use the 25-06 on animals greater than 90 # you should be thinking in terms of premiun bullets. roger

Actually the Hornady 120 HP is a great bullet for whitetails and mulies....

One of my sadest stories was with a 25-06 IMP and 120 grain HP bullet. Mule deer 6 point (western) 34" spread. Perfect shot. Didn't find him for 6 to 7 hours. Horrible wound and we had to dispatch him.He was laying in the sage brush still kicking.
Store bought ammo designed, quote on quote, for for deer size game.
Have had to many bad experiences with non performing high speed bullets in 22-250, 6mm/.270 IMP and 25-06 IMP.
Was converted to modest size cartridges but it took a long time.
VD my well be correct but I'll never find out from my own use.

Ive shot probably 50 deer with the 2506 mostly with 117 sierras,115 ballistic tips and partitions and have seen very little differnce in any of them on deer. Put the bullet where it belongs and it usually decks the deer. Place any of them in the wrong place and you will chase them. Never really seen a need to use premium bullets in any caliber on deer sized game.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
If you intend to use the 25-06 on animals greater than 90 # you should be thinking in terms of premiun bullets. roger

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One of my sadest stories was with a 25-06 IMP and 120 grain HP bullet...

Store bought ammo designed, quote on quote, for for deer size game

Just curious. Where did you find store bought ammo for a 25/06 IMP?

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Originally posted by olarmy:

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One of my sadest stories was with a 25-06 IMP and 120 grain HP bullet...

Store bought ammo designed, quote on quote, for for deer size game

Just curious. Where did you find store bought ammo for a 25/06 IMP?

Good quetion. It was standard 25 -06 before firing and the cses became 25-06 IMP after firing. Actually I was wondering if someone would ask that question.
Almost all the cases I got for that rifle were fire formed commercial 25-06 rounds. roger

Thanks. Guess that brings up another question. Did Hornady actually load factory loads with the 120gr HP? All I ever recall is the 117gr BT and now the 117gr SST.

I have a couple of 25-06's and both shoot the 100gr Sierra Pro Hunter bullet very well with Re22. I also load for a friend of mine and his 25-06 prefers the IMR4831 with 100gr Swift A-Frames. We have had great success with both loads on 150-200+ lb whitetail deer. Most have been found within 25yds of impact.

Great Buck!

thats a beauty!

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Originally posted by Ed Scarboro:
I have a couple of 25-06's and both shoot the 100gr Sierra Pro Hunter bullet very well with Re22. I also load for a friend of mine and his 25-06 prefers the IMR4831 with 100gr Swift A-Frames. We have had great success with both loads on 150-200+ lb whitetail deer. Most have been found within 25yds of impact.

I joined the .25-06 club almost 5 years ago now when I asked a local gunsmith to build me one on a Zastava action. I've only been able t shoot this rifle for about one year as my chosen Smith worked slower than molasses in winter. I've taken one little pronghorn doe using 100 grain Rem factory ammunition.

I'm taking it out this weekend to try H4831 and RL 22 with bullets ranging from the 110 Accubond to the 120 grain Game King. My rifle is a Zastava action with set triggers, 26" #5 contour SS Lilja barrel, semi-gloss black teflon finish, 4-16X40AO Bushnell Elite 4200, and all this is mounted in an old Whitworth stock that I re finished. I'll let you know how she shoots after this weekend.

I have shot about 40-50 Pere Davids (250-500+lb dressed), about 100 Red Deer similar wieghts, several 1000 fallow deer, 4-500 of each of the following Sika, roe deer and muntjac (about 20lbs dressed).

With several different bullets but always ended up back with 115gr Combined Tech BT's.

I couldn't get very good groups with the Accubonds in my 25-06 (they group great in every other rifle I own). I ended up settling on the 100 gr. Barnes TSX and RL 19.

Commercially availible brass is a bit undersized.
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=319108639#319108639

I HAVE SHOT A Rem 700 25-06 since 1981. Best loads use 4831 and Nosler 100gr Ballistic Tips. Shoots at/about 3200 fps and under 1 moa in my rifle, which is free-floated and steel-bedded. About 40 deer over the years never went more than 10 yds.

just shot 3 deer last night doing crop damage with that hornady 120hp out of my 257 weatherby. I bought some bullets a guy didnt need anymore on the internet and there were 5 boxes of them so i figured id give them a try. They were very accurate in my 257 and sure worked well. All three dropped in there tracks one even flipped over backwards at the shot. All three deer had exit wounds and alot of internal damage. I dont know what more to ask of a bullet then that.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by bartsche:
If you intend to use the 25-06 on animals greater than 90 # you should be thinking in terms of premiun bullets. roger

Actually the Hornady 120 HP is a great bullet for whitetails and mulies....

Got my 25-06 back in the early 70's. Started out with 100 grain bullets and over the years migrated to 115-120 grain bullets. My dad had one built in the mid 80's, and has used 100 grain bullets from the start. After reflection, I have gone back to 100 grain as they have done everything we have asked them to do on whitetail, antelope and hogs. Ranges have been from 12 yards to over 500. We have settled on IMR 4064 powder. It isn't in the slower burn rate suggested by most, but has proven accurate in every rifle we have loaded for.

I have a varmint model from back in the 70's and it currently shoots 75 gr. Hornady HP at 3700 fps but has shot 100's, 115's, 117's and 120's. It is not going to offer death ray ballistics with the 120's but it is the best weight bullet for killing larger deer IMO. I would opt for the 100 grainers in order to maximize the trajectory and the energy difference is insignificant within its effective range.

I like 110 grain Accubond and IMR7828, so does the Savage.

If you have some around I've always done the best with H 870 & 115-120 grain slugs in mine.