I read in my Nosler manual many years ago a recollection by the author of it's performance as compared to the 6.5-06. I have never found a drawing of it, but understand it to be essentially a 6.5-308 type.

is it any different than a .260R ? Nate

Trying to remember what the thing was and I think your right, 6.5x308. Of course it's also beem called the 263 Express and the 260Rem. I think Jim Carmichael called it the 6.5 Panther. If I had one I think I'd call it "Bill" just to be different. But I don't, I've got a 6.5x55 I call "Bud" and a 6.5-06 I call "Sam" as in surface to air missle. A 6.5-308 is a 6.5-308 no matter what you call it!

.270 Redding is based on the .308 case.

If the 270 Redding came out years ago, there might not have been the 6.5/308=260R, nor the 270 WSM.

I think it would have made many deer hunters eat well.

I doubt the 270 Redding would have made it. The 260 probally won't and if the 243 were introduced today it would probally fail.

Problem is that this is America where bigger is better. The 270 Redding wouldn't be far behind the 270 win but, it's case is smaller. The 7mm-08 has a good following but it'll never knock off the 7mm Rem mag. The 270 WSM won't do anything the 270 win won't and the 270 win has a big head start.

Americans are not as concerned with fine cartridges as with hot cartridges, or what's in vogue. The only reason I bought my latest 6.5x55 was because the 260 Rem said 260 Rem on the barrel rather than 263 Express or 6.5x308. If it had said 6.5 Panther, I would not have bought it either. Kind of fickle huh????????

Interesting, but a lot of truth, hmmmmm

a '270 Remington' now that might have really confused everyone when ordering guns and ammo.

uhhh, a 338-08 Remington (like the 7mm-08) but of course Federal beat them.

I know what you mean, the 6.5-06 and 338-06 have their following, but it's rare you hear the A-Square name (Saami certified) behind them. I would not want that on my barrel either.

I would rather have a 6.5 PPC than a 6.5 Grendel stamped on a gun, but then again, the Grendel IS a little different, by about 1.5gr

Marketing is funny. The 41 mag never made it, but if it started out as a 41 special, with police loads, it might have done well. So there are lots of factors, name included in a ctg. commercial success.

The 270 Redding ballistically does what many deer hunters need which is likely 80% of hunters in the U.S. It is not far behind a Win. version with 130's.

There has been as you say a following/trend it seems to bigger and faster for many folks, if you can shoot them, they work, sometimes better.

If you can shoot whatever you have, you can usually make do, putting a bullet where it needs to go, some just do it better, a 300 WSM might just 'Git R Done' better than a 243, but the 243 was positioned in my mind for kids/women and dual varmint/deer, or long range varmint. It's performance has pleased many but true for some large game hunting it has its weaknesses/drawbacks.

Fickleness is a very strong trait, especially in me. As I get older, I find I am prefering short action rifles, though I still own several long actions and am in the process of buying another.
So, for me, cartridges based off the .308 winchester are "more better" than their longer, more powerfull counterparts. I would buy a .270 Redding (if it were factory released) long before I'd buy a .270 winchester. I also don't see the need for the short magnums either, so no .270 WSM for me.
I guess, though, I've always had an interest in the 6.5 bore, and bought a .260 Remington (Ruger 77) the first year offered. I think it is the ideal Whitetail round- low recoil, accurate, power to spare, wide range of bullet weights- all pluses in my mind. It is the cartridge that my son will take his first deer with this fall.

SBB

I DO feel if there were some lighter weight varmint loads in factory ammo, the general public might look at the 260 as a 'better' dual purpose round, that all else equal has advantages over the 243 on deer size game.....more blood trails when needed, and shorter at that.....you have to remember, many deer are hit with less than optimum bullets in 243, sometimes it works, sometimes not.

The 260, 270 Redding and the 7-08 in 22" or longer barrel will give any varmint or deer hunter what is needed in many situations within 400 yds, bearing in mind I would believe 80% of deer killed within 300 if not 200 and the results should be better with more on target energy.

I believe the redding has a 30 degree shoulder. I made a 260 imp 40 degree about 20 yrs ago and still find it a favorite. The redding or my own does 3050-3100 with a 120grn bullet. It's not going to match a 6.5-06 but there isnt alot of differance. The nice thing about them though, they loose less then 100 fps going from my 23" barrel to my 18" barrel with the same loads.

Lotta silliness in the cartridge business. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that there is a significant difference between any of the medium 6.5 cartridges and there are at least a half a dozen of them. Seems to me that any one of them would have done.

I found a reference but no drawing.

The 6.5 Redding is basically a 6.5/.243W with a 30 Deg shoulder. Much like the 6.5-08 Imp wich has a 30 or 40 deg shoulder depending on the flavor.

I'd still appreciate some help finding some drawings of the reamers in this catagory if any of you find them.

I've been a Qaurterbore fan for a long while, and have considered the Durham Jet, Souper, and Duanne's .257 DGR to be great little rounds for young or small hunters. Now I've got two young boys coming up quick I started thinking. An improved version 6.5-08 could be a lot of fun! Nate

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Originally posted by Leftoverdj:
Lotta silliness in the cartridge business. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that there is a significant difference between any of the medium 6.5 cartridges and there are at least a half a dozen of them. Seems to me that any one of them would have done.

I agree. That's why I stuck with the 6.5x55. A couple in original Swede dress and a M70 ftw. Cast lead in the original Swedes and jacketed in the Winchester. Best of both worlds.

I have a .260ai/40deg shoulder, made up in a target weight rifle. Accuracy & vel. has been impressive. I am now thinking I need to get a .260 in a hunting weight rifle.

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Originally posted by fredj338:
I have a .260ai/40deg shoulder, made up in a target weight rifle. Accuracy & vel. has been impressive. I am now thinking I need to get a .260 in a hunting weight rifle.

What kind of velocities are you getting? Nate