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I am getting ready to sell a very clean 77/22 mag with the laminate stock and all weather finish and I a just not sure what is a fair price.

The gun is an honest 99% and I have only seen one on Gunsamerica and it was either $450 or $475 and just not sure how legit that is...


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike,
I have seen several at gunshows and they are all in that same price category you are talking about. You might also check www.gunsamerica.com to compare prices there. Good luck.
 
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Keep in mind they currently run about $625.00 new..

I have a 17 HMR in the same rifle, but no one wants to give me anywhere near what I paid for it..

It's had less than 250 rounds down the barrel on it..

good luck selling it!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by seafire2:
Keep in mind they currently run about $625.00 new..

I have a 17 HMR in the same rifle, but no one wants to give me anywhere near what I paid for it..[QUOTE]



Seafire -

How many do you figure Ruger is selling at a price over $600? Any at all? For that matter, how many do you figure anyone is selling for more than about $400-$450?

I paid just over $300 for mine (77/22M laminate) brand new, and would not pay more now.

Manufacturers can TRY to jack prices up to double what they were. It will be interesting to see how many models are dropped (and how many makers go out of business entirely) as a result. I don't figure Ruger or any of the other "biggies" is going out of business this year, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see some major changes in what is available.

Who, knows, we could maybe even see them go the other way - - - back to doing what Winchester did in the '30s...let you order darned near anything you wanted, just to get your business.
 
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AC,

I personally want to know where you bought yours for $300.00 then, if that was brand new THIS year?

Here at the Sportman's Whorehouse over in Medford and also up in Salem and Portland, they are a little over $625.00...in any caliber they make them in..

Same with the local shops, plus checking with BiMart ordering one...

The last time I was up in your neighborhood, I checked the price on a 77/22 in 22 LR, and they quoted me $615.00 delivered...

Unless Ruger finally realized they weren't moving for that price and dropped them back down to a realistic price.. which $300.00 is...

the 77/17 I am referring to in the above was purchased at the Roseburg Gun Shop/Cascade Ammunition...


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A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46."

Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop...



 
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Canuck, if you can get them for $300, I would be purchasing everyone they have, my dealer cost is $505.


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Canuck, if you can get them for $300, I would be purchasing everyone they have, my dealer cost is $505.



I assume you are speaking of $505 NEW. We were not suggesting a price for a new gun, but a used one.

And how quickly are the new ones currently flying off your shelves at the current higher prices? One of your big sellers? Is ANY.22 Mag at any price by any maker one of your real profit centers these days?

I know I could not buy a new one today for $300, or the slightly over $300 I paid for mine new. But all that means is that I wouldn't buy one now. And, I suspect, one priced at over $400 used will be slow to sell too, regardless how nice condition, unless a person very luckily meets just the right seeker/buyer when he first puts it on the market.
 
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Seafire -

Sorry I did not respond earlier but I missed your post. (Your signature has become so long, I often have trouble differentiating between new text and old, when in a hurry doing other things and looking here as well.)

Anyway, NO, it was not this year. Nor would I buy at the places you mention anyway. There are too many friends with FFLs who will sell me things at their cost for me to patronize those places. That may anger every stocking dealer on AR, but I'm sorry guys, even though it is not the small dealer's fault, I will not buy big maker products (that I don't HAVE to purchase) from ANYONE who thinks nothing of doubling their prices every time they can find an excuse. Sooner or later, dealers are going to have to tell wholesalers (and gun makers) that they will not order goods for greatly inflated, speculative, prices.

Every economic bubble bursts sooner or later. "Dot.com" prices fell like rocks, housing prices are still falling, eventually gun prices will appear like anvil/millstone hybrids as the market begins to shrink in response to industry foolishness.

In the meantime, commmon sense tells me I don't need to buy 'til sanity returns to the marketplace.
 
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$450 or $475


Too much and a CZ 452 in .22 Mag. can be had for less. Looks nicer and will shoot cirles around the Ruger.
 
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$450 or $475


Too much and a CZ 452 in .22 Mag. can be had for less. Looks nicer and will shoot cirles around the Ruger.



Not only that, but the CZ includes a good deal more shipping costs, and at least one more "middle-man" in the food (profit) chain...and still comes out less expensive and at least as good quality.

So please tell me again, someone, why I should pay a ridiculous price for a Ruger product just because Zanetti thinks I should?
 
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You guys are pretty amazing...turning a simple question over the current market price of a particular rifle into a pissing match


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
You guys are pretty amazing...turning a simple question over the current market price of a particular rifle into a pissing match

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