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Gday Fella's Hunting Deer is something I have NEVER done and have no idea about. A question was presented to me about fallow deer which by my understanding are one of the smaller deer breeds (is this correct?). My Question is: If I were to go hunting for Fallow I would use my 303.. but no doubts I'd take my father with me, my second most powerful rifle is a 22-250rem... Would a 22-250rem loaded with a strong projectile be ok with a carefully placed shot? What projectiles would you use in the 22-250? I have some 303 150gr HP taipans here which I think would suffice for the 303brit do you think they'd be ok? Cheers Fella's! | ||
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Use the 303 if at all possible. If you have to use the 22/250, use a premium bullet that will stabalize in your barrel. Partition, Barnes TSX (53 grain), Trophy Bonded should all work. The new Scirocco may be too long (70 gr) for your barrel twist, you will have to check. I tried the 70 gr Barnes TSX in a 1 in 10 twist barrel, and the stabilization was iffy at best. Most 22/250 barrels are 1 in 12 or 14, so stay with the lighter bullets (60 gr or less). Aaron | |||
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I can't comment on fallow but here in Montana the 22-250 is used quite a bit on whitetails and mule deer. I have used a variety of bullets but the most outstanding performer has been the 63 gr Sierra SMP. It will give complete penetration on broadside shots. I have seen it break a shoulder and penetrate the lungs on more than one occasion. But I have also seen it stopped by a shoulder so I cannot recomend a shoulder shot. But with carefully placed shots it will be quite effective. If you are reloading try either 32.5gr to 33.5 gr of H4895 or 38-40 gr of H414. 2.385 Overall length. I reload for 6 differnet 22-250's and one of those load works in every rifle we have tried it in. 3-7-77 | |||
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In my 22-250 I use 35 gr Impala bullets and a charge of 37 gr H4895. This gives me 4100 feet at the muzzle and works very well for game up to 100lb. They simply collapse. Impala bullets are a bit tricky to reload and are expensive but they are the best I have ever tried in my 22-250 on game too heavy for that caliber. | |||
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I concur with Blue Dot on the 63 grain SMP Sierra. I have also personally used the 70 grain Speer SMP in both 223, and 22/250 and they did a darn good job. Blue Dot, welcome to the forum and that is an awfully Catchy Name... I like Blue Dot a lot. Most guys in here can tell you why! Cheers and good shooting seafire  | |||
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I expect that there would be several testimonials to bullets that will do what you ask. The one I am familiar with that has killed over 200 cull whitetails (witnessed) is the Hornady 52 gr match hollow point out of a 220 Swift. I have used the same bullet to kill 60-70 wild hogs with a 22-250, 220 Swift and even a .223 Win as well. Not that I wouldn't use a premium 22 caliber bullet either; they just weren't available back when all this occured. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Have taken numerous fallow with the 22/250, head shots mainly and a couple in the chest. Found hit in the head with most projectiles they go down ok, even 50gr win sp. But when hit with the 60gr hornady, it really put them down.Chest shots make a mess, so go for the head. using adi 2208 34.5gr 60gr hornady sp, this load is max so work up from at least a few grains below. cheers cc | |||
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Thanks for the info guys.. I currently use 33gns of ADI AR2206 with a 55gr Nosler Shot projectile.. I am thinking of using the Nosler partitions for deer. I want something that holds together real well to try and ensure the most humane kill possible. I will try to use my 303 first though! | |||
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A guy from down south told me he uses 70gr SP bullets and he gets them from Speer. He said neck shots. | |||
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I am a great fan of the 243 on fallow (which by the way weigh about 100lbs ready to process) but allthough I might be tempted to try a 22-250 and 60gr nosler as a stunt I would never reccomend it for someone who hasn't hunted a great deal. Fallow show great great resilience. You will kill it but the chances of finding it are remote. | |||
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Fallow aren't a big animal, but a stag is more tenacious of life. The 60gr Nosler Partition, or 64gr Winchester Power-point should do the job if you do yours. Personally I'd prefer to move up in caliber but if that's all you've got and its legal (not here in Vic), then go for it. A mate used a 22/303 Falcon a few years back on his farm and did nicely picking his shots carefully out to 75-100m. Cheers... Con | |||
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Keith, on does, the 22/250's fine... 223 will do as well, either go for a head shot (tricky, as they don't stand around with a sign on their head saying 'shoot me'), or wait until the doe is quartering away from you, then put he bullet into the chest cavity - sort of 'slip it under the ribs' if that makes sense. Personally, I loathe 'head shots' - they don't stand still even when they're undisturbed... I won't hunt with anyone who only goes for head shots, I've seen too many deer with their lower jaw shot off. If you can do it, fine. But a fallow head is pretty small, and you'll bust any antlers. A fallow buck is a bit different... you'll need a bigger cal than any of the 22's. ******************************** A gun is a tool. A moron is a moron. A moron with a hammer who busts something is still just a moron, it's not a hammer problem. Daniel77 | |||
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Nosler makes a 60 grain Partition that is death on small to medium size deer and antelope! You can buy the component bullets or the loaded ammo from Remington or Federal. On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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I agree on the 60 gr. Nosler Partition for small to medium deer. I have witnessed great results with this bullet. David. | |||
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I've shot several Texas whitetails with my 22-250 using 50-g Nolster BT. None have went further than 40 yards and dropped within sight. All were shot between 100-125 yards. Had one pass-thru on a doe, and the two bucks were found with the bullet on the opposite side. | |||
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I am not usually a big fan of Barnes X bullets, as I think they are too spendy and tooo trendy.... but I did end up with a box of 53 grain XLC bullets, and have used them several times in a 22.250 to take deer, each time one shot kills... I did play with the Nosler 60 grain partition and was disappointed with its accuracy in all of my 22 caliber rifles... I am sure it will work when hitting the target, I just didn't develope the confidence in its accuracy to try it in the field.... cheers seafire | |||
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 Seafire, Your experience with the Nosler 60 gr. Partition is the same as mine. I've tried to load them in my .222, .223 & 22-250 but still haven't begun to get the kind of guilt-edge accuracy that such "smaller" cartridges require to hunamely dispatch Roe Deer. Can you share some load data perhaps? Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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 The 70 gr. Barnes' Original if you can find them. A large number of mule deer bucks and does were dispatched with my 22 Varminter and that bullet in the 60s.A couple that come to mind were at a great distance and dropped right now. For the little guys it should be just great.Other bullets I used in that rifle were just short of a disaster on deer.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Many years ago Hornady listed the 60 grain Hollow point as a deer/antelope bullet and I have used it many times. It will exit leaving good size holes most of the time. My 22-250 always shot well with a case full of IMR 4350. As always stay away from the shoulder. Leftists are intellectually vacant, but there is no greater pleasure than tormenting the irrational. | |||
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well, I guess I'm in the minority because I'd say just get some regular ol plain jane 55 gr softpoints or whatever and have at it. I've seen numerous deer taken with 223's, a 22, etc, just using the common ammo and they all dropped in their tracks except for one that went about 40 yds before it dropped. In these small fast calibers I believe its the explosiveness of the rounds that makes them so devastating. I'm not sure the stiffer bonded type bullets would work as well. | |||
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oh, these were used on NY whitetails, which are larger than axis deer I believe. A decent sized deer here goes over 200 lbs. | |||
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My Dad and brother have gotten many dozens of deer over the years using Hornady 55gr SP's loaded to 3600fps with IMR4320 & 4895. That's fast enough for a good trajectory to 300yds and beyond, but not so fast they will surface explode at less than 100yds. ************************ Our independence is dying. | |||
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