Hello!

Any opinions, please, from use of advantages of the one - Nosler Partition 100 grains vs the "new" Remington Corelokt Ultra Bonded 100 grains in 6mm/.243"?

I prefer the exposed pointed lead tip on the Nosler as I have the idea it makes the bullet more "streamlined"?

But how does the Remington perform against the Nosler?

Does it actually retain more weight than does the Nosler because it is all through bonded with no "blow off" front part like the Nosler?

Both, here in UK, are the same price so that is not an issue but performance and accuracy are!

I have used the Remington ultrabonded 100 grain in my .243 and in two shots it has dispatched two whitetails.....Performance is just fine IMO!

Sorry but cannot comment on the Nosler in this caliber as I haven't used it!

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Originally posted by enfieldspares:


I prefer the exposed pointed lead tip on the Nosler as I have the idea it makes the bullet more "streamlined"?

I can't answer your question, but I have read that the tip shape does not make much difference in the BC of a bullet. More gain is made out toward the final diameter of the bullet.

But is they are the same price I would go with the NP everytime(unless I really liked the Rem.)

I have never used the Remington, but the wife and I have killed a bunch of whitetail deer, and she had killed several antelope and a couple of big mule deer with the 95gr Nosler Partition in a 243.

She also used the 100gr Sierra for whitetail deer and some antelope with perfect results.

It seems there are a lot of detracters for the 243 as a deer rifle, but we always had great results with it.

The wife killed antelope as far as 350 yards with no problems.

The only reason she now used a 308 is that we are now on a lease that has some good sized pigs...

Both will kill deer up to 300 pounds or so with no trouble at all. I'd just use whichever one shoots best in your rifle.

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Originally posted by kjjm4:
Both will kill deer up to 300 pounds or so with no trouble at all. I'd just use whichever one shoots best in your rifle.

This made me chuckle a bit. How many people encounter deer greater than 300 lbs on a consistent basis. Also the fact that a 275 lb deer with succumb but a 325 lb deer won't.

Either bullet will work, but I'd use the Partition if they were the same price.

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How many people encounter deer greater than 300 lbs on a consistent basis.

Only one that I know of!!!!!

ive shot alot of deer with the 6mm and my thoughts are that i wouldnt take it out to hunt anything bigger then deer as i have better guns for bigger animals. Shooting deer sized game ive never saw any differnce in the premium bullets and standard cup and core bullets like sierras ballistic tips and corelocks.

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Originally posted by graybird:

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Originally posted by kjjm4:
Both will kill deer up to 300 pounds or so with no trouble at all. I'd just use whichever one shoots best in your rifle.

This made me chuckle a bit. How many people encounter deer greater than 300 lbs on a consistent basis. Also the fact that a 275 lb deer with succumb but a 325 lb deer won't.

Either bullet will work, but I'd use the Partition if they were the same price.

By "deer" I was including all deer species. The OP is from the UK, where they have roe, fallow, sika, muntjac, red deer, and chinese water deer. What I was basically saying is that I'd feel comfortable using a .243 with 100 grain bullets on any of the UK deer species excepting red deer which can get as large as 400 pounds.

Enfieldsparew, I've collected a number of south easter US deer - smallish - with a .243. Haven't used either of the bullets you cite but have used 95 gr. partitions and common bullets approximating the Remingtons. My deer didn't seem to care a bit which bullet I hit them with, they all have acted like and died as if they were hit with my .30-06 and 7mm Mag. Meaning they sometimes dropped in their tracks but mostly they ran like a rabbit for 30-50 yards (in maybe 3-4 seconds) and went unconscious on their feet, sliding to a stop with heads folded back over their shoulder and stone dead by the time I could get to them. All my shots are broadsides that puts the bullet through the lung/heart area.

I'd suggest you use the bullet that gives you acceptable accuracy at the highest velocity.

I don't use Noslers only because they are more expensive and the cheaper Winchester Bulk packed work great. If it aint broke don't fix it. What I have seen the Noslers do well, so I'd base my choice on which gives the best accuracy. Exposed or covered nose??---You'll just have to pick your own nose.

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The OP is from the UK, where they have roe, fallow, sika, muntjac, red deer, and chinese water deer. What I was basically saying is that I'd feel comfortable using a .243 with 100 grain bullets on any of the UK deer species excepting red deer which can get as large as 400 pounds.

The man is right! It is for general UK use hence the concern regarding sika and red deer. Which as KJJM4 says can be not only heavy but those "Japs" are VERY TOUGH!

Goodness, vapodog, we are talking of anyone's wife here!

I've shot a limited 4 reds with my 243. One with 105gr speer, two with 100gr partition and one with 85gr speer BTSP. All body shots. What was noticable was that the 105gr speers didn't expand at all well on roe which travelled quite a long way even though shot well. Add that to my experience with fallow of which I've shot a lot with 85gr, 87gr, 90gr, 95gr and 100gr and I'd say that expansion is very important in a 243. I don't know the construction of the remingtons ultra bonded but I'd steer clear of anything that doesn't give strong expansion.

Based on this I don't think you can beat a 100gr partition if larger large deer are your quarry.

For ordinary deer I've found the 95gr ballistic tip superlative.

My rifle has a 19" barrel so velocity is somewhat reduced.

Enfieldspares,

I was disapointed in the Remington bonded in their 62 grain 223 ammo. Very explosive despite modest velocity.

The cheaper Fusion from Speer/Federal was a better bullet in 223.



Here is picture of Fusion and TBBC, 62 grain vs 55 grain.

Nosler is well known entity. Ive used the 100 grain partition alot in 25-06 and 257 weatherby.

Very reliable.

Andy

My first 243 kill was 100 Partition, unimpressive, but buck died in 30 yds w/blood trail, but showed no signs being hit - when hit thru both lungs.

Since, shot many bullets:

Fav:

95 Ballistic Tip

80/85gr Barnes

85 BTHP Sierra GameKing - won't penetrate like above 2, but often plenty and kills lightning fast, very destructive bullet, and not just a superficial 'splatter' either.


Just my choices - ANY/ALL will work when used thru vitals w/in limits, though as many know, varmint bullets don't fair so well and far less forgiving. 85-105 are normally fine, save perhaps the 87 Vmax.

Remington makes great rifles and nosler makes great bullets end of story as far as i am concerned. no comparison what so ever.

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Originally posted by 6.5BR:
My first 243 kill was 100 Partition, unimpressive, but buck died in 30 yds w/blood trail, but showed no signs being hit - when hit thru both lungs.

Since, shot many bullets:

Fav:

95 Ballistic Tip

80/85gr Barnes

85 BTHP Sierra GameKing - won't penetrate like above 2, but often plenty and kills lightning fast, very destructive bullet, and not just a superficial 'splatter' either.


Just my choices - ANY/ALL will work when used thru vitals w/in limits, though as many know, varmint bullets don't fair so well and far less forgiving. 85-105 are normally fine, save perhaps the 87 Vmax.

I can answer that question. The partition is a devided bullet meaning that it expands to that division than stops allowing penetration to take over. Considering that your bullet probably expanded to that point within just a few inches after pentration it just plowed the remaining distance before punching out. A soft tip or ballistic tip would continue expanding all the way through creating a larger wound cavity in the process. The additional tissue damage results in a quicker and cleaner kill.

When you see bullet go through ballistic geletin the massive wound cavity starts off right away and tapers off before exiting. Given enough distance the initial cavity is what we want to have happen so if the game animal is larger than this window we need to use a larger or longer bullet which would extend this cavity deeper.

The 85 grain Sierra BTHP is a soft bullet and performs just like the Nosler ballistic tip but the lower sectional density does not allow it to completely penetrate.

Your favorite is also mine. The 6mm 95 gr. BT is awesome and my go to bullet for whitetail deer.