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6.5, This is my best guess, and pure speculation.... Weatherby's accuracy guarantee is 3 shots in 1.5" at 100 yards, using Weatherby ammo. Rem, Win, and Ruger do not have such a guarantee, but I would expect similar accuracy from all of them. I would think that you should be able to expect 1.5" at 100 yards with factory ammo that the gun likes. 1" at 100 yards may be possible, and be happy if you achieve it. It may even shoot better than 1", that would really be icing on the cake. You may be able to improve accuracy through bedding (floated/pressure bedded) and trigger pull adjustment. I think that 1" should be possible with good ammo once you find out what works. I also think that the lightweight barrel may be as accurate as a heavier barrel for the first few shots, but may have a tendency to "walk" when it heats up. You might be handloading before you thought, 260 Rem factory ammo is scarce and fairly expensive around this part of the country. Congratulations! and good luck, Bill | |||
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I had one of the first of the 700 Mtn. Rifles in .280. It would very reliably put 3 into an inch at 100 yds. with my full power handloads. If your limited to factory ammo, anything under 2 inches @ 100 would do. I'd stress the bullet quality, like a Nosler Partition, much more than a bit more accuracy. I'm certain it will be a very satisfing rifle for you. E | |||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
How good are the Model 700 triggers? Are they easily adjustable, or should I get an after-market one installed by a gunsmith? What about bedding the action and free-floating the barrel? I've heard that it can help accuracy a bit. My rifle will have a laminated stock, so it shouldn't warp and put different pressure on the barrel when the temp. or humidity change. This is my first Remington rifle. I will be handloading for it, but I'd like to try it first with factory loads, so I have an idea of what type of accuracy it's capable of. I think I'll pick up a box of Remington 140 gr. PSP, Federal Premium 140 gr. Sierra GameKings, and a box of Speer 140 gr. Nitrex. That should give me a good idea of what accuarcy I'm getting before I start handloading. It's gonna be a sweet rifle for packing. My current rifles all weigh just under 10 lbs. This one should be around 7.75 with a scope & mounts at the most! ![[Eek!]](images/icons/shocked.gif){kind=icon} | ||
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I've worked with 2 M700 Mtn's both is 280 and both would go right around .75" with 3 shots if I kept the barrel cool. Sweet rifle! You are one lucky fella! "GET TO THE HILL" Dog | |||
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I don't know what size of game you are anticpating with this rifle but from a performance standpoint, don't ingore the lighter weight bullets in the 260. My Model 7 Rem. was a .75 shooter right out of the box with handloaded 129 Hornady's and 125 gr. Partitions. The Rem. factory load with 120 ballistic tip was even more consistent and accounted for a 210 lb. Georgia whitetail last year, one round with complete pass through at 100+ yards. You will like the 260, its just a 6.5x55 Swede in a short action. | ||
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I have a 700 in 300 win mag that wouldn't shoot into 8 in at a 100. I then free floated the barrel glass bedded the action. Now with 180 serria match kings she well do under a 1/2 at a 100. I shot one group at 300 that went 3 for .75. The trouble was the factory had so much fore end tip pressure that you could see the barrel move upwards when you tighten the action screws. | |||
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6.5 - I have the same rifle in 7-08. A light, nice handling, MAJOR sweet shooting piece it is. I also have a standard Mtn. Rifle in 260, as well as a Titanium Mtn. Rifle in 260. The 260 Ti doesn't shoot as well as I'd like, but the standard 260 Mtn Rifle is a good shooter. Never fired any factory rounds in either of them, but I hear the R-P factory stuff with 120 Nosler B-Tips does very well. R-WEST | |||
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| <Bruce Gordon> |
I bought a new Remington 700 in 260 caliber back last fall. It was the blued model rather than stainless. Just for grins when it was new I put my 32X target scope on it to see what loads work the best. There were only a couple of factory loads available. None of the factory stuff shot better than 2 MOA even with a really good target scope. I sent it to a gunsmith to get it glass bedded but haven't gotten it back yet. My expectation is that bedding will change it to a sub MOA rifle. | ||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
I've decided to not buy factory ammo, it is quite expensive. I got 1 box of Hornady 140 gr. SP, 1 box of Nosler 140 gr. Partitions, 1 box of Sierra 120 gr. MatchKings, and 1 box of 120 gr. Nolser Ballistic Tips. For powder, I bought RL19 and H4831. I bought 100 Rem cases, and I have CCI Bench Rest primers. RCBS dies and a 6.5mm trim pilot round out the order. I'm also trying to get a Remington Synthetic stock for hunting in nasty weather. I'll use the 140 gr. Hornady bullets for barrel break-in, and the 120 gr. Sierra bullets for seeing what type of accuracy I can achieve. Then I will use the 140 gr. Partitions for hunting, if they shoot well. The Ballistic Tips are known as an accurate bullet, so I got them to use for deer if the Partitons don't group well. I'm only going to be shooting out to 300 yards with this rifle, so the extra velocity of the 120-129 gr. bullets won't be to much advantage, but the high sectional density and penetration of the 140 gr. Nolsers may come in handy. The deer here in Canada can get big. My rifle may be here by tommorow, or Friday, and the reloading equip. should be a few more days still. Thanks for all the replies. | ||
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First of all accuracy is highly dependent on the power of the scope and how good a shot you might happen to be. I've had at least 3 280 Mtn. rifles. They all shot better than I could. Rem 700's are very accurate. You may have to find the right load for it though. The most important thing you can do to get the best accuracy from a 700 is to completely free-float the barrel. Then you'll be happy. Will | |||
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6.5 Mtn Rifle, Case capacity of the .260 is not specially generous and a 140 grain bullet will eat up much of that capacity. In spite of the high efficiency of its short stubby case, velocity will be quite moderate and I can't see what are its advantages over a 125 gr Partition. I have used both in game and by my experience the higher speed of the 125 grainer kills faster. It also shoots flatter and recoil is lower. And you still need a lot of deer to stop one of them! If we spoke of game larger than deer, story would be a different one, but then I would carry something larger. Regards, Montero | |||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
The scope I plan to use for now is a Leupold Vari-X II 3-9X40mm. Eventually, a 2.5-8X36mm Vari-X III will be what I'll use. As for free-floating the barrel, I've heard that there is a pressure point in the barrel channel, and that lightweight barrels shoot their best with some moderate upward pressure. I will shoot it as is, then if I'm not happy, I can sand it down. If accuracy gets worse, I can then build up a pressure point with fiber glass. I'll try the 140's first. I'm sure the 125's would work great too, but I think 2730 fps or so is attainable with a 22" barrel, it still is going 2200 fps @ 300 yards. | ||
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| <Sawblade> |
I have a mountain rifle in 7mm-08. Sweet little gun. Factory Rem. 140's shot absolutely terrible in it. Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertip shoots about .5" but man is that stuff expensive. Wish I had gotten the model you have because it has the floor plate instead of the detachable mag. that mine has. When carrying, the comfortable balance point leaves my hands wrapped around the det. mag. and those little tabs are VERY uncomfortable. ![[Mad]](images/icons/mad.gif){kind=icon} I have a stainless BDL with det. mag. and it balances in the hand just forward of the mag so it's not a problem on that model. That's the only thing I dislike about my mountain rifle. You'll love yours. | ||
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I have the same gun in .270 winchester and I love it. I hunted Wyoming last year with it and what a joy it was to carry that instead of my Ruger M77 30-06. Mine is set up with the Vari-X III in 2.5-8 x32 as described above in stainless finish with stainless mounts too. I have a black leather sling with stainless swivels too. This rifle is a keeper! My gun will shoot 1.5 inches at 100 yards with most factory ammo. The trigger should be nice out of the box. If it is not up to your liking, most any competent smith can adjust it to suit your tastes. Enjoy that rifle! Jay | |||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
I got my rifle today. It is great. I'll have to wait for the loading equipment before I can shoot it. It is 6 lb, 10 oz from the box. 7 3/4 lbs scoped. Trigger is great, no need for adjustment. Real slender barrel, just a hair over .5" at the muzzle. I sure hope I can get good groups at the range. My goal is 3 shots inside 1.5", and anything close to an inch will be awesome! I'll let you guys know how things go. ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} | ||
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| <Eagle Eye> |
Off the bench, 1.5" groups should be rather easy to obtain. I had the same rig in a 7mm-08 and no matter what reloads I fed it, the groups never exceeded .75" with 3-shoot groups at 100 yards. Enjoy your new toy. | ||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
I got my reloading stuff today. I'm going to load 50 rounds of 140 gr. Hornady bullet for barrel break-in. I'll try 41.7 grs of IMR 4350, 3% below max. I hope to get to shoot it this evening. 6.5 | ||
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6.5 mountain rifle, i recently aquired a 700 LSS in 30/06. i full floated the barrel, tuned the trigger and the first group went into .8 and i have no doubt it'll do better playing with powder charge, and seating depth. don't sell sierra bullets short for hunting, i use them in .22, 6m/m .257,30 cal all with outstanding results. as far as remington triggers go, unless you're a serious bench shooter you can be happy with it. i got mine to 34oz and never touched the sear screw. i think you made a good choice. i sure like mine. i have owned remingtons since the 50's and it's been a real pleasant experience. of all the rifles i have owned all but one shot one hole groups with minor tweaking except a 22/250 varmint that gave me fits until we cut and recrowned the barrel. then one tight hole. some people like savage, some like ruger, some remington just to mention a few . i guess it's like the ford/ chevy/mopar thing. i'm sure you'll be happy with it and you'll have a smile on your face when you look at it. dennis hepner | ||
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I've been to the range a couple of times with my 260 now. The load I put together was a 140 gr. Hornady Interlock, 40.9 grs. IMR 4350, CCI BR-2 primers, in a R-P case. I loaded 50 rounds, a have fired 4 groups of five shots at 100 yards. The smallest is 1.5", the largest 2.4", average is right at 2". I think this is not bad for it's first load, and only having 40 rounds total through the new barrel. The only group I fired at 200 yards was 4"(4 in 2.5"). Recoil is very low, only slightly more than a 243 or a 30-30. I look forward to trying some new loads pretty soon. Those 120 gr. Ballistic Tips and MatchKings should shoot a little better. I bought 2 lbs. of IMR 7828, and I'm still waiting on my RL19 & H4831. P.S., the 140 gr. Hornady Interlock bullets were tested for penetration & weight retention, at 10 & 200 yards(2500 & 2150 fps) into pine logs. 15 yards was 12" penetration, 79% retention, 200 yards was 8.25" & 81.5%. They hold together pretty good. Not bad for a $.22 bullet! | ||
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I shot a few more rounds last night. A 3 shot group @ 100 y - .94", and a 4 shot group @ 300 y - 4". It now has 50 rounds through the bore. Next loads I make will be 120 gr., I'm hoping to better my 140 gr. groups. | ||
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6.5 Mtn Rifle, I have a Remington 700 synthetic stock if you need one. I have no Rem's left to put it on. | |||
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6.5, enjoy that new rifle. I had my 1974 vintage 6mm Rem 700 out at the range today to check the scope with my favorite deer load (95 grain ballistic tip and 48 grains of Re-22). All these seasons later it still makes 3/4" groups at 100 yards with the 22" sporter barrel. I've cleaned it and handloaded for it and shot it for nearly 30 years. No modifications. Remington makes good rifles. Guy | |||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
Carnivore, Thanks for the offer, but I've already got one on it's way from MidwayUSA. I'll let you guys know how those 120's shoot. | ||
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Just got back from the range with my re-barreled left hand Remington 700 short action. I installed a 260 mountian rifle take off barrel. Tried my wifes ammo, a 129 Hornady with H-414 and got a 5/8" 3 shot group right off. I do have a Jewell trigger set at 8oz. that helps when shooting from the bench. I would think with a bit of tinkering you can get your mountian rifle to shoot 3/4" groups rather easy. | |||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
I hope to get to the range on Sat. or Sun. for sure. I loaded up 20 rounds of 120 gr., 10 Ballistic Tips and 10 MatchKings. The powders are RL19 & H4831. A 5 shot group of each powder/bullet combo should give me an idea of their accuracy. | ||
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I was at the range this afternoon testing the 120 gr. bullets. Conditions were alright, just a light wind coming at a 45* angle over my shoulder. Here are my results, all 5 shots at 100 yards. 120 gr. Ballistic Tip/48.5 grs. H4831 - 1.56" 120 gr. MatchKings/48.5 grs. H4831 - 1.58" 120 gr. Ballistic Tip/46.6 grs. RL19 - 1.64" 120 gr. MatchKing/46.6 grs. RL19 - 2.00" All are satisfactory, although I think the Sierra match bullet could do better. 3 out of the 4 groups had 3 shots inside an inch, with the other 2 opening the group up slightly. My first group with the 120 gr. was impacting 3-4" higher than the milder 140 gr. load I was shooting before. Next I will load the 140 gr. Hornady with H4831, IMR 4831, RL19, and IMR 7828. [ 07-29-2002, 06:18: Message edited by: 6.5 Mtn Rifle ] | ||
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| <dennis hepner> |
quote:6.5 MTN RIFLE, DO YOU WANT TO SELL THE FACTORY STOCK? IF SO, HOW MANY U.S. DOLLARS? THANKS, DENNIS | ||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
dennis hepner, I'm keeping the laminate that came with it. The synthetic is just for bad weather hunts. 6.5 | ||
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| <Cossack> |
Looked at one just likeyour's it at the local sport shop this noon. Sweet rig! My 260 is in Rem 100XPR (bolt action 'handgun'....sort of), largely because the Mt R in 280 and SS Model 7 in 7/08 had taken the challenge out of shooting deer. Last year I used it to take a nice buck, with 120 gr Barnes X and enough Varget to make 'em cook at 2750 fps (15" tube). The deer never took a step after a high double lung hit just under the spine...afterward I noticed the ticker was thumping and knees shaking again, just like the first time. I get sub 2" MOA with mine; expect getting 1"' from yours should be no problem with quality handloads. Remington tiggers are generally simple to tune. Usually set at +4.5 lbs from factory. Got mine down to 2.5 lbs, no take-up or creep and minimal overtravel just using the adjustments....no stoning. Have also tried IMR 4350 and Rl 19 so far. The latter is faster but the Varget is most accurate in mine. It likes Hornady 129 SP set out to .020, which I use for practice, and the 120 Barnes X set to .040 for hunting. I expect one shot kills with Barnes; they have never let me down using several calibers. But they are a different breed (solid copper alloy, no lead) so you gotta know how to load 'em. Suggest getting their manual if you decide to go that way. Good hunting. | ||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
Cossack, I think 1" is attainable too. I think I'm already there for 3 shot groups, but 5 shot strings seem to go as small as 1.5", so far. I haven't got a chance to shoot the 140 gr. Hornady with the different types of powders yet, on the weekend I will for sure. I was thinking of buying some Barnes X's for my 260 Rem, but am unsure of their accuracy and fouling, I have seen both. A friend's rifle throws the X & XLC all over, but others have gotten great accuracy. Fouling is a bit more, but that isn't a huge problem for hunting. I agree there is no bullet better for hunting if they shoot well in your gun. | ||
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| <6.5 Mtn Rifle> |
Thanks for all the interest. I've started a new post on my new rifle. 6.5 | ||
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