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| The worst overpriced junk on the Market and by quite a margin. |
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| How Dare you!!! |
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| I'll attempt to feign surprise,at your cluelessness.
Nope...didn't work,I seen it arriving. |
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| quote: originally posted by you know who:....,I "seen" it arriving
Quit trying to make the double digit IQ holders look like Geniuses! |
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| I'm no fun to play word games with and my dexterity with Lexicon is Legendary(understatement).
Yes...you are a Vagenius. |
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| You're a legend in your own mind!
Bring it on.
Is the constant sunshine up there driving you crazy? Get some sleep. Things are always better after sleep. |
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| Shoot the rest of your Life in the ass and find where I'm mistaken.
"Legendary" is perhaps a might too conservative,but humility is something I know well. |
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| quote: Originally posted by Busheler: Shoot the rest of your Life in the ass and find where I'm mistaken.
"Legendary" is perhaps a might too conservative,but humility is something I know well.
Easy. You're mistaken |
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| What's easy,is how adept you are in being wrong.
Impressive,to say the least! |
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| quote: Originally posted by Busheler: What's easy,is how adept you are in being wrong. Impressive,to say the least!
Correctly written: "What's easy? How adept you are at being wrong?" Get your money back from your English teacher. |
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| You needn't flaunt the ease in which you constantly wade over your head,it is well beyond obvious and beyond refute.
Congratulations?!!? |
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| I do see now why several folks have asked for Busheler to be banned. Might not be a bad idea.
Now to the question. I have several A Bolts and like them very much. I have handled a couple of X Bolts and like them except for one shortcoming that I consider quite significant---the comb is way too low for my tastes.
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| Posts: 2104 | Location: Fort Worth, Texas | Registered: 16 April 2006 |
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| quote: Originally posted by Busheler: The worst overpriced junk on the Market and by quite a margin.
Like him or not, that statement rings true. I sent my A-bolt down the road several yrs ago. If buying off the rack a guy to do a lot better than an A-Bort. |
| Posts: 9 | Location: TX/WYO/TN | Registered: 23 February 2010 |
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| Sorry about my posts to Busheler! It was immediately when he was exposed as a crazy man.
I was having fun chasing him from thread to thread antagonizing him when he was beating up on folks.
About the A-Bolt or the X-Bolt:
I own 3 A-Bolts. They are the most accurate factory rifles I own. My .243 WSSM Varmint Stalker, .300 Win Mag Stainless Stalker, and Medalion .223 with BOSS all are 1/2 MOA rifles with a good handload. I've had no quality issues.
If you want to do a good pillar bedding job on one, get one with a wood stock.
My gunsmith says they are a nighmare to rebarrel if you need to. Hunting rifles usually never get shot that much so this may not be an issue. |
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| I too have a couple of A-bolts that I feel are very good guns. Some objective information on the X-bolt would be nice. |
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| quote: Originally posted by D99: 4 screw holes are a pain in the ass to line up with the mount. But the idea is strong. Not sure why they just didn't make bases.
I only own 2 A-Bolt Medallions in the much maligned 25WSSm and 223WSSM. Call them Impulse buys. Price was right and I imagine it was hard for the seller to move lefty WSSM's. I guess I'm a sucker for really nice wood -- they have great wood! Both of mine have been damn good shooters. Kept factory. I'm about 600 rounds in the 25WSSM and accuracy is really good. While I've only fingered a few of the X-Bolts I have to agree w. why would you design the base holes like that? Seems like a glut for punishment. And the ones I played with seemed like the aluminum was a bit on the cheesier side. But proof is in the puddin and my opinion is worth what u paid. |
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| My brother has an A bolt in 375H&H that he has used in Alaska for years and it shoots very well. He has never had a problem with it. I picked up an A bolt the other day from an individual that needed a little money. The first test loads I loaded all shot under 1" at 100yds. This is a little 7/08 that is right out of the box with nothing done to it. The trigger is about 4lbs with no creep and seems to just shoot.
I have mostly Winchester 70's and Weatherbys with a few Merkels thrown in, but this may become my favorite deer rifle. |
| Posts: 892 | Location: Central North Carolina | Registered: 04 October 2007 |
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| I've owned several A-Bolts, but never an X-Bolt since Browning refuses to offer a lefty version. The A-Bolts are good decent production rifles. Accuracy has been exceptional with all the one's I've owned.
If I were your friend, I'd try every bolt gun I could and get the one that fits him the best. If its an X-bolt then great.
Brownings use to cost substantially more than Remington and Winchester, but that's not as true these days.
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| I'm from a little town called Clintwood. |
| Posts: 190 | Location: Mountains of Virginia | Registered: 09 January 2005 |
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| I have had three A Bolts: 2 in 375 H&H and one 270 Win. All three shots sub MOA, but they just didn't feel very robust, especially compared to the older Brownings, Sakos, etc.
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| I had a Browning A-bolt for about six years. It was a great shooter, 7mm RM, would shoot sub-moa all day long. I've killed lot's of game with it, but one day it just wasn't doing it for me anymore. So down the road it went. It just felt chinsey or phoney to me, like they tried way too hard to be different or something. I can't really put a finger on it, but I like my sako's and mausers much better. As far as the Xbolt goes, I at first agreed with bushler, but I actually like the shape of the forend, round fits your hand much better than square. I still don't like the looks or feel of a browning action, but they shoot (at least mine did) like match rifle, and I've never had a problem with it.
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| I have 3 a-bolts and all are great hunting guns, easy to carry and more accurate under field conditions than I'm capable of achieving.
Most people poo-poo on them because these reasons 1) Because of the clip type magazine you limit max OAL on reloads which possibly prevents achieving the guns best potential accuracy. Cartridges must have an OAL to fucntion in the mag.
2) Trigger isn't replaceable with after market one. Timney makes a replacement spring which helps a LOT! But for bench guys use to a "glass triggers" you can NEVER get a browning trigger to the same level.
3) Barrel profile,..is thin in some people's opinion and will heat up quickly,...again not an issue in a hunting rifle,...but for competion it can be.
4) It is made in Japan,...Some people still have a grudge that they moved. If it meets one's needs does it matter where it is made?
I don't have experience with the X-bolt but held a few and read some reviews. The x-bolt isn't replacing the A-bolt both are still being made,...Browing is trying to capture another part of the market with the x-bolt. But I would assume all of the above "drawbacks" of the A-bolt would apply to the X-bolt also |
| Posts: 131 | Location: Southern WI | Registered: 09 March 2007 |
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