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H-4895 for 6x47 Rem.
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Anybody use this or have any ideas on loads. Or imr4895
 
Posts: 34 | Location: victoria,tx | Registered: 24 January 2010Reply With Quote
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Back in the mid to late seventies, I shot a 6x47 in sporter and light varmint. My load consisted of 26.5 - 27 of 4895 and 70 grain bullets. I won a lot of stuff with that rifle before I, like everyone else, switched to the PPC. Regards, Bill
 
Posts: 3857 | Location: Elko, B.C. Canada | Registered: 19 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I use H4895 in my 6mmx222 to great effect. 23 grains with an 85 grain Sierra GKHP makes tiny little groups.


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You could go to the maker and see http://www.adi-powders.com.au/...asp?Calibre=6+x+47mm

The powder you are looking for is AAR2206H


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Mr. Leeper, is the 4895 IMR OR Hod. or does it matter? Was the bullets boat tail or flat back. Thanks for the help. JP
 
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is the 4895 IMR OR Hod. or does it matter?

Bill can respond for himself on the particular question, but there have been at least three "H-4895's": The original surplus powder (which was probably manufactured by DuPont, and therefore actually an "IMR-4895); the first "newly manufactured" H4895 which came from ICI in Scotland; and finally the current H-4895 manufactured in Australia by the former ADI. Likewise, there have been two "IMR-4895's": One manufactured by DuPont (both military surplus and later commercial), and the current IMR-4895 which is manufactured in Canada and distributed, confusingly, by Hodgdon.

Does it matter? Well, in my experience the Scottish H-4895, the DuPont 4895, and the Canadian IMR-4895 were all surprisingly close in burning characteristics and were pretty well interchangeable. HOWEVER, Hodgdon does show some discrepancies between the current H- version and the current IMR-version in their data. So if you're speaking of powder you bought off of the shelf last Friday, then it very well may make a difference. But back when Bill Leeper was loading it, it probably didn't.
 
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I have a older H4895 and bought a IMR4895 today. So I will test the water a little before jumping in w/both feet. JP
 
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is the 4895 IMR OR Hod. or does it matter?

Bill can respond for himself on the particular question, but there have been at least three "H-4895's": The original surplus powder (which was probably manufactured by DuPont, and therefore actually an "IMR-4895); the first "newly manufactured" H4895 which came from ICI in Scotland; and finally the current H-4895 manufactured in Australia by the former ADI. Likewise, there have been two "IMR-4895's": One manufactured by DuPont (both military surplus and later commercial), and the current IMR-4895 which is manufactured in Canada and distributed, confusingly, by Hodgdon.

Does it matter? Well, in my experience the Scottish H-4895, the DuPont 4895, and the Canadian IMR-4895 were all surprisingly close in burning characteristics and were pretty well interchangeable. HOWEVER, Hodgdon does show some discrepancies between the current H- version and the current IMR-version in their data. So if you're speaking of powder you bought off of the shelf last Friday, then it very well may make a difference. But back when Bill Leeper was loading it, it probably didn't.



I know there were three 4831 powders the first being Bruce Hodgdons surplus H4831 from 20mm cannon shells, then came IMR4831 and then Bruce had H4831 made in Scotland. Hodgdons current H4831SC powder is actually made in Australia and known to us as AR2213SC.

I never heard of three 4895 powders particularly one made in Scotland? I stand to be corrected though.
 
Posts: 3943 | Location: Rolleston, Christchurch, New Zealand | Registered: 03 August 2009Reply With Quote
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Thanks for the input. Going to load up a few and try them out. JP
 
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I used to load the 6x45 and used 24.0 grains of IMR-4895 with the 85-grain Sierra BTHP. This was a max load in my rifle and I got better accuracy with H322.


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A record holding benchrester named Steve Kostanich use to school a lot of us PPC shooters with his 6X47 bench gun at a lot of matches. His favorite powder was the H-4895.


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I have a fiend who loads every one of his rifle cartridges with H4985, including 223 Rem. If I remember, he loads~23g in the 223.

I keep telling him he should try other powders, but he prefers to keep things simple...


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Ive shot IMR-4198 and 4895 in my 222. 223 and 6x45 and got great velocity and good accuracy with all bullets and they have always been accurate powders in many calibers...but, some years back, I settled on H322 for benchrest accuracy, and turkey shoots. I use H-335 for hunting, its not quite as accurate as H322 in most guns but its a good deal faster and accurate enough and its a better hunting load.


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Dulltool:

Confirm that charge with him.
I used mostly H 4895 in .222mag 55gr w/25gr.
Somewhere around 2950-3000fps IIRC. Same load in .223 now, same results. Only big difference is availability of brass.

Gunsmith: when you shoot those test loads have that chronograph set up, that's the only way you'll ever notice enough difference between these two powders.

I have never been a max loader so the difference's never matter much to me. Always load somewhere around the middle of the charge listings and you'll be plumb safe long as the muzzle didn't dip in the mud too deep.

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I have a fiend who loads every one of his rifle cartridges with H4985, including 223 Rem. If I remember, he loads~23g in the 223.

I keep telling him he should try other powders, but he prefers to keep things simple...


That's not a bad way to go. It seems to work in just about everything and is quite useful in reduced loads for the kids. Having said that, I think I have at least fifteen different rifle powders on the shelf. Roll Eyes
 
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Have not had time to shoot in while. Got to get on with it and figure it out before it gets to hot down here. Thanks for the input. Jerry
 
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