I'm looking for a gun for my wife. She is petite (4'10") and has had neck surgery. I have seen pictures of the CZ 527 Carbine and it looks very interesting.I have a few questions I hope you all will help me with.

How accurate are the 527 carbines?

Will it kill a average size (160 TO 180 LBS) deer at say 150 to 175 yards?

I know this is a dumb question but is the recoil very bad in a 7.62x39?

I will have to cut the stock down to fit her.

Thanks for your advice
Steve

You should look into a .243 for your wife. Recoil is minimal (like the 7.62x39), but bullet choices are extensive, And with Whitetails on the menu out to 200 yards, that should be just about perfect.

Good luck

Justin

I have to agree with the above post. Another great option would be a 257 roberts.

243, 257 Roberts, 260 Rem, and 7/08 Rem would all be excellent choices... actually I think the above are probably the best and most practical deer sized cartridges available....

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I was going to get one for just plinking with surplus ammo until I read this...I still may get one but I would make sure the dealer would stand behind it if I had misfire problems...Another thing I would think if you were going to use this rifle for hunting that you would most likely have to reload for it...there maybe some factory hunting loads available for it...but I don't know that for sure...

I built one (7.62x39 ) on a Turk mauser for my kids and wife to shoot. shoots great and accurate, about like shooting a 30-30 but less recoil then a win mod 94. Also easier to handle. The 7.62 will do anything a 30-30 will do at about the same range for deer sized game.

recoil isnt always just foot pounds of energy and rifle weight. anyone who has shot a steyr sbs prohunter will attest to the fact that the recoil is greatly minimized by the stock design.
in fact the 308 165 grainers in the SBS mountain rifle kicks the same as the 243 BLR. the 7mm-o8 is a pussy cat in the steyr and i'd guess that the 243 would be even softer.

The CZ carbine has a rather low stock comb. It also has a thick bolt root which requires the scope to be mounted somewhat higher than most guns. This combination makes it problematic for the shooter, especially a woman or child with a thinner face, to make contact with the stock and still maintain the proper eye position. The CZ also has the "backward" safety that can be confusing.

The cartridge will kill deer just fine, but probably not as well as the similarly-recoiling .243 Win.

The 7.62x39 is what many call an intermediate cartridge. Not that big in other words. It doesn't have the case capacity to drive a decent size .30 cal bullet (most are actually .310-.311) to a reasonable velocity. 2400+ fps with a 125 grain bullet is getting up there. So you have a range or enough velocity to expand the bullet problem.

The other cartridges mentioned are all better choices if hunting is on the menu. Plinking or defensive shooting are entirely different.

Also, she needs to try the gun and pick the gun. We are all physically different and what stock design, size, shape works for me may not work for you. If the gun doesn't fit her well and feel good to her, then she will not shoot it well.

LWD

I would also advoacate either the .257 Roberts or the 6.5x55. In my experience, the .257 and 6.5 kill game noticably faster than the .243, with about the same felt recoil. The .243 will work, I just think the other two are better choices.

Dave

I bought one for my daughters. They are petite girls at 4'11" and 4'8" and weighing under 100 pounds. My eldest has used the rifle to take 2 whitetails, one of which was a large doe in Kansas with a 168 yard shot. She and her sister have both used the rifle to killed large black bears. My youngest daughter has used the rifle to killed impala and blesbok with a 50 and 125 yard shots. The caliber and rifle are great for small framed shooters and will work wonderful on deer for shots up to 200 yards. The rifles are accurate, but can be fussy about which ammo they will fire. I use bulk Golden Bear 123 grain hollow point bi-metal loads and these are accurate and penetrate well. The rifle I have will not always fire Winchester white box factory ammo because of light primer stikes, but this ammo is the most accurate in the rifle.

Recoil is very soft. I doubt if you will need to shorten the stock, but you will need to add to the comb as you can see I have done in the photos.





Perry

Remington is marketing a rifle chambered for the 7.62X39 m/m. You might check out their website.

Way to go Perry ..that's neat!!!

Remington's M-7 CDL in .243 or .260 is a fine gun and just right for your application.

I fully concurr with the .257 Roberts and 6.5X55 as well. Keep the weight down, the rifle short, and the power at the .243 level and you have a winner.

IMO the 7.62X39 is a military only cartridge.....not a sporting cartridge.

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Originally posted by vapodog:
IMO the 7.62X39 is a military only cartridge.....not a sporting cartridge.

Great Military; ragged edge as sporter! roger