I have been looking at the CZ carbine but have a question for anyone who has one. In all the pictures on the website it shows the clip sticking out the bottom of the action about 3 inches - it actually hangs lower than the trigger guard. Why does this 5 shot clip stick out so far when my CZ 375H&H magazine (that holds the same number of a much bigger cartridge) hardly protrudes below the wood at all?

thanks,
Scott

Because it is a single stack magazine and not staggered like most Mauser type actions. You can make it flush but you loose capacity. Roy Bertalatto website has photos on how he did it to the .22 hornet version as seen here: http://public.fotki.com/Rbertalotto/cz_magazine_modification/

Dr. Scott
I think the CZ 7.62x39 would be an excellent first deer rifle [I have killed two deer with the 7.62x39 with 123gr. soft points] as well as a centerfire rifle for a beginning shooter to practice with, or as an excellent "plinker" for an adult because of the available ammo at a good price.

We have one in stock. It is my personal gun. I have never shot it, but the ballistics behind the round always intruiged me. A few of my friends have the CZ's in this cal and use them very heavily.

Aleko

Charles Daly is cataloging the Zastava Mini Mark X in 7.62x39 (but none are yet being imported). I like its looks better than the CZ because of the staggered box magazine with hinged floorplate, and a stock with a higher comb (the comb on the CZ appears too low for proper use with a scope). What I really covet is a 7.62x39 built on a Sako L-461!

Dr.Scott I saw a CZ in 30 Russian short [7.62x39] at Rays Hardware on Singleton in Dallas TX today.

I was told by a friend at SAKO that the 75 was avalible in 7,62x39mm. Is this true?

Aleko

N E 450 No2,

Do you happen to know the price? I am trying to figure if local price plus tax is cheaper than Phil in Atlanta plus shipping and transfer fees. Thanks everyone for all the information.

Scott

Sorry Dr Scott I did not check the price.
If I get back down there I'll write it down and pass it along.

450,

What part of Singleton is Ray's on? I may have to stop by there tomorrow.

Thanks,
MD

I do not have a CZ in 7.62 x 39, but I want one. I have a Bulgarian AK-47 that I have used on hogs and deer and I have found the round to be quite adequate at short-mediun ranges. Accuracy can be superb, even with military ammo. I wish more companies made bolt-actions in this under-appreciated caliber.

MRMD
Ray's is located at 730 Singleton Blvd, just west of Downtown Dallas. While you are there take a look at the Steyr rifle in 9.3x62.

The Price of the CZ 7.62x39 is $509.00

Didn't get over there today. Probably won't make it tommorrow either. Too busy at work. I do end up close to that area some days. I will have to look at that Steyr

I have the CZ and it is a dandy. My young boys love it and this past season is accounted for several deer and hogs just fine with cheapo Wolf ammo ($45/500). I bought mine at Carter's here in Houston for $359, I believe they are now charging $379. If you get a chance look at a few as the one I bought has fantastic wood. I wouldn't worry about the magazine...

MRMD Be sure and check out that 9.3x62 Steyr. I have shot quite a few Steyr rifles over the years and they are some of the most accurate rifles I have ever fired. That 9.3 is a very sweet handling rifle...If I did not have my Chapuis double I would have that Steyr.
They also have a full stock Steyr in 308 that I know for a fact shoots good.

Does anyone know the bore diameter of the CZ 7.62X39? Is it a .311 or a .308? No guesses, has any one measured it or seen it published by CZ?

Mine MEASURES at .311".

Thanks Ed, thats what I suspected. Ther is one in a local shop here for $439.00 and I sure have the hots for it.

A friend of mine said that Hornady produced a ~125 gr. .311 Ballistic Tip on a limited basis, just for this round. Has anybody tried them?

Has anyone benched their CZ 7.62X39 with good handloads? I know the .222's and Hornets shoot well.

The 7.62X39 is a wonderful little cartridge when matched to a short bolt rifle. i have a Bill Wiseman custom Sako on the small action which has taken numerous whitetails and a Mountain Lion with excellent results. The ballistics are for 125 grain bullets 2500 ft/sec and 150 grain bullets 2250 ft/secs from the 21" barrel. Accuracy is less than 1 MOA and thats just fine for the applicable ranges. Besides when loaded with a 150 grain Rem RNCL it just looks mean!

I have heard of a wildcat based on the 7.62X39 but blown out to 6mm - read somewhere the Russkis did a lot of work with the round before settling on the AK74 round which is 22 cal, 5.52X39. Anyone have any dope on the round, like ballistics or what it is called?
Regards,

Doc,

I think the magazine is just sort of a design used on all CZs in that series. You can get the same rifle in 223, 222 and the Hornet.

In the States we can only get a 5 round capacity, thanks to the Hilary Clinton's and Charles Schumers of the world. I Europe the same rifle comes with an 8 round capacity as I was told by a CZ customer service person.

A friend of mine who just passed away, had a Sako Vixen in 222, and when he got it in the early 1960s it came thru with an 8 round magazine.

I have been looking real hard at that rifle myself, and the only draw back to me is the 311 bore vs a 308 like Rugers run of 77Mk2's in that caliber.

Know a guy locally that uses that Ruger with a 110 grain round nose for deer hunting these small black tail deer. Fantastic gun for a kid, starting out deer hunting or for a " toss it in the truck" rifle.

I may end up buying one of the Charles Daly minis in this caliber. I had a bad experience with CZ USA's warranty service and I won't buy another one. But the caliber does look interesting for small California deer and as a first centerfire for my son.

Sure am glad the bad guys use that great little round. Hearin' you guys talk about it... I don't get it. JMO, it's worthless and there are a lot better cartridges to put in a fine sporting rifle. Everything about it is wrong.....

I bought a CZ 7.62 by 39 and it would miss fire 50 percent of the time with factory Win and Rem ammo. Called the factory Rep in KC MO and was told the ammo was at fault. Sold the rifle and the CZ's are very nice looking and well made but you couldn' give me another. Just what happened to me.

DigitalDan, just consider the 7.62x39 the Russian equivalent to our .30-30 (ballistics are close at the muzzle, and the 7.62 catches up to the .30-30 by 75 yds). Would you call the .30-30 a worthless round?

Years ago I purchased a Mini Mauser X in 7.62 X 39mm. It has a hinged floor plate and 4 round capacity. Nice wood too. Works well on deer if the range is held to 150 yds or so. Bore dia .311, Sierra mkes a nice 125g SP in that diameter. Accuracy is ok, about 1.5" at 100 yds. but for a light gun about 6# total, not bad at all. I still see some in the used racks from time to time. You might want to check it out.

Scout Master 54

It looks like Norinco is making a couple models of short bolt actions in 7.62x39 that vaguely resemble the CZs, at least as far as having detachable magazines. Anyone know anything more about them? You can check out a picture of them under "Specials" at www.leverarms.com

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Norinco made .223 and 7.62x39 bolt guns called "bush ranger", they use rear locking lugs and rotating bolt head, I had a chance to see one but didn't shoot it or had the money to buy it.

The ones with detachable mags that you refer to have adjustable trigger, rear locking lugs plus rotating bolt head, and I think the barrel is press-fit into receiver, but not sure. I don't know if the DM version is also called "bush ranger" or not.

The gun design is copied from Anschutz centerfire rifles, not CZ

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DrScott, I've bought two in the last two years from Bill's gun shop, right around ghe corner from Alpine in south Ft Worth, south of 820. I paid $439 for each. In addition my wife bought me a standard 527 in 222 from Bill's for Christmas for $439, this one has beautiful wood. Both my son and I have rebbled these carbines to 6 mm PPC. JBelk did my son's and he's getting half inch goups, haven't shot mine yet. I also am having one rebbled to 6.5 PPC, should be finished in a couple of weeks (this guy is slow.). Looks to me like a 6 lb rifle forty inches long that will get a .264 dia 120 gr running at around 2750 fps should be an ideal whitetail rifle for an old guy like me.

I think it is just TOO bad that you can't chamber the 7.62x39 in the Contender... It really is an excellent round in search of a good platform. I would think that it would perform between the Whisper and the Herrett and that should be great! Those CZs do look good but a mini-Mauser... Oh, jeez, I'm getting the shakes...