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Well, we see that most folks here at AR had a .22LR for their first actual fire-arm. But a number had to stick in some bits about shooting a BB gun as their first rifle.

So, lets talk about that specifically....ie.

Question:
How many of us actually started our rifle shooting with a BB Gun, NOT A fIRE-ARM which used burning powder as a propellant?

Choices:
I Started with a BB Gun
No, I started with a firearm.

Question:
Okay, if you started with a BB Gun, what kind was it?

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Daisy Red Ryder lever action
Daisy pump gun
Cooper
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Other (Please name)

 
 
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My first BB gun was a Crossman. It was spring powered via an inward pump of the barrel. Many a Starling fell to that gun. Smiler


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BB guns & pellet/air rifles are two different guns.
I could not vote because pellet rifls is not an option & they are not bb guns. Please include pellet/air rifles as a third option to see how the cards really fall.



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I always had a pellet gun.. growing up on a farm and ranch there were always rats in the hay-barn, birds, and rabbits. I started off at 7 with my brothers worn crossman 880--then went to a benjamin 22 cal cal from our local western auto. Then I got a RWS 34 in high school.

I got my first "real gun" when I was 9 a Marlin 39..but still enjoyed shooting my pellet guns.

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I started with a Crossman Model 760. I was fortunate enough to live out in the country and was turned loose with it at a very young age. The numbers of English House Sparrows, European Starlings, rats mice and barn pigeons that fell to it was huge. It also accounted for a number of rabbits, squirrels and a few mallards off the pond.

I still have an air rifle, but use an RWS now. And am still taking rabbits and squirrels with it. But my days of sniping ducks with an air rifle are over. Cool
 
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BB guns when I was 7 or 8. I had a Red Ryder, my buddy had a Daisy pump. I always thought his pump was more neater than my lever. Graduated to my Dad's Mossberg when I was 12.
 
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1944, 9 years old, a very hard to get Daisey pump. Could not find in stores during the war. beerroger


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BB guns & pellet/air rifles are two different guns.
I could not vote because pellet rifls is not an option & they are not bb guns. Please include pellet/air rifles as a third option to see how the cards really fall.


Sorry, I can't do that. Once voting has begun, making any corrections to the original post causes all the votes up to that time to be wiped out. Besides, my intent was to determine how many rifle shooters started with BB Guns, not something else.

But, of course you can vote. You just did, with your post.
 
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Currently own a Baikal .177 pistol w/scope, a Daisy 880(?- the Walmart one, pump, has a BKL mounted scope).

Looking at different pellet rifles at the present, also.
 
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BB guns when I was 7 or 8. I had a Red Ryder, my buddy had a Daisy pump. I always thought his pump was more neater than my lever. Graduated to my Dad's Mossberg when I was 12.


Yeh, Craigster...my best friend (who was also my cousin) had a Daisy pump, and I had a Red Ryder. His was definitely more powerful than mine, and seemed a bit more accurate too. It definitely fed more reliably with its sping loaded single column magazine, than mine which was just a huge tube magazine that you could dump about 1 & 1/2 500-shot tubes of BBs into.

OTOH, in BB gun fights (they were common in our neighborhood) I had a real advantage over him. I could begin with over 500 "rounds of ammo" while his pump was absolutely linmited to 50 rounds and was much slower to reload.

Yeh, I know, us kids were damned dangerous brats, to have BB gun fights. But, we DID require aiming only below the waist. Nobody wanted to "put your eye out" like our moms all howled about.

We also soon found that if you loaded a wooden match down the barrel with the head sticking out the muzzle end, you could fire the gun at an angle to the sidewalk and have it light the match which would bounce into the dry summer grass alongside and start a grass fire. NEAT!! we thought....
 
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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
BB guns & pellet/air rifles are two different guns.
I could not vote because pellet rifls is not an option & they are not bb guns. Please include pellet/air rifles as a third option to see how the cards really fall.



But, of course you can vote. You just did, with your post.


ok.



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Actually started with a HyScore air pistol. 22 cal spring operated. Actually found a new one in the original box with the original price that was printed on the box in a shop in Tucson and the dealer sold it to me for the marked price. Only problem is the leathers in the piston must be dry as a bone and all the oil hasn't helped,but then I don't really know how to disassemble the piston to soak them in some neatsfoot or better yet replace if possible. Shoots very erratic groups and the original I had was super accurate.


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BB guns when I was 7 or 8. I had a Red Ryder, my buddy had a Daisy pump. I always thought his pump was more neater than my lever. Graduated to my Dad's Mossberg when I was 12.


Yeh, Craigster...my best friend (who was also my cousin) had a Daisy pump, and I had a Red Ryder. His was definitely more powerful than mine, and seemed a bit more accurate too. It definitely fed more reliably with its sping loaded single column magazine, than mine which was just a huge tube magazine that you could dump about 1 & 1/2 500-shot tubes of BBs into.

OTOH, in BB gun fights (they were common in our neighborhood) I had a real advantage over him. I could begin with over 500 "rounds of ammo" while his pump was absolutely linmited to 50 rounds and was much slower to reload.

Yeh, I know, us kids were damned dangerous brats, to have BB gun fights. But, we DID require aiming only below the waist. Nobody wanted to "put your eye out" like our moms all howled about.

We also soon found that if you loaded a wooden match down the barrel with the head sticking out the muzzle end, you could fire the gun at an angle to the sidewalk and have it light the match which would bounce into the dry summer grass alongside and start a grass fire. NEAT!! we thought....


We had the BB gun wars too, the orchards and vineyards that surrounded us out in the West Valley made for great war zones.
 
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Actually, I just found my old BB gun when I was at my Mom's house this past Christmas. I hadn't seen it in over 40 years.

It looks like a Daisy lever gun, but the only name on it is "Buzz Barton Super No. 103" that is in star, burned in the wood stock. The action, lever, and barrel are all chrome.

I think it originally might have been my Dad's when he was a kid. It still shoots. Smiler


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Don't recall the model name, but mine was a Daisy pump-action,
no pump up, just one pump and fire.

Last fall, I saw an ad for the same type model. Thought they
had been discontinued years ago.


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Daisy brought the pump back, I've been thinkin' about buying one just so I could act like a kid again.
 
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For sheer, unfettered joy, there's nothing quite like being 10 years old, unsupervised, with a Daisy and 15 cents worth (three packs of 100) BB's, and having free run of 100 acres rife with sparrows, cowbirds, and even grasshoppers for targets. Add to that a trash dump full of empty beer bottles neatly disposed of in their original cartons and you will understand the concept of Nirvana.
 
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I got a Crossman 2100 for my 10th birthday. It was reasonably accurate with pellets out to 20 yards or so. It finally quit working (after being shot at least 100,000 times) when I was 17 or 18 years old. I used to tack a target onto a maple tree in my yard; I shot it so many times that I unwittingly killed the tree due to so many copper-clad BBs being embedded in it.
 
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I've told this story before- my uncle and his pals always tried to "one-up" each other. This in rural NC c.50's-60's. My uncle ordered a Winchester Pigeon Grade (?) shotgun, his friends got to the post mistress first and when the gun arrived, she tipped them off, and they opened the package and replaced the fancy shotgun with a BB rifle and a brick.

They great unveiling of the fabulous shotgun was quite a sight.

more- he gave the BB gun to my brother; we had "cubby hole" storage closets within the dormers on our story-and-a-half house. The house was built in 1951 and was balloon framed. My brother dropped the gun down between two studs in the wall in one of the cubby holes, and it went all the way down to the basement sill, unrecoverable. The house is still standing, and that BB gun has to still be encased in the wall for the last 54 years.
 
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I started with a Daisy Red Ryder when I was 8, bought another a few months ago when I got 2 for my nephew and grand daughter. Still a boatload of fun, after I added an extension to the buttstock. The new one seems to have a little more power and accuracy than my original had.


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My very first one was a hand-me-down that was my Dad's in the mid 1930's. It is a Daisy single shot. To cock it, you break it open like a shotgun, which compresses the spring. After closing it up, you insert a BB in the muzzle and let gravity take it down to the breech. Aim and shoot. Not terribly accurate, and slow to re-load, but it made a shooter out of a 7 year old kid. I was at an extreme disadvantage in our neighborhood BB gun battles! It didn't take long before I wheedled a new BB gun out of the old man- a Crosman repeater that you have to push the barrel back and slam it forward to cock and load it. Both of those old guns still have a place of honor right among my "real" guns.
 
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My first BB gun was a Daisy Lever but I do not remember it being a red Rider. My next two were the Daisy pump. Then my next 4 or 5 were a Daisy Target Special. It was a lever gun but had the 50 shot tube like the pump. It had a peep rear and a hooded sight on the front. These were great guns!
 
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Crossman don't recall the model. It held 22 bb's and you pumped the barrel in one time. Still have it somewhere.
 
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I started with a Daisy Pump BB gun. Killed a lot of birds with it.

My second gun was a Benjamin Pump 22 cal pistol.
I killed a lot of birds and rabits with it.

My next gun was a Savage Stevens Mod 311 double in 20ga. After that a Remington 121 Pump in 22 LR.

Seems like a pretty good "gun" plan to me...

I "turned" out all right.

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My first gun was a Daisy model 1894 lever action. My mother told me not to shoot anything with it.

Yea, right. I still remember that puff of feathers on the first English Sparrow I killed.
 
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My first was a Crosman 760. I could go through a 1500 bb carton in no time in the summer. When I was a teenager I saved up and bought an RWS Model 36. I'd spend hours sniping plastic army men or dinosaurs in the yard.

My first firearm was a well worn Marlin Model 60 that I've still got.

My son's first gun was a Daisy Model 21. His first 'real' gun will be a 25-20 DR that Ellis Brown is finishing up this month(with a set of 410 barrels). We can't wait!

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I started with a Daisy lever action with the plastic stock(before I had a peddle bike) and the a model 25 (edit) Daisy pump and after that a Beautiful Benjiman silver streak with a Williams peep(.20 cal)




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I started with an old model Daisy 25,the one with the stronger spring. I now have a safe full of powder burners but I still like to "play" with a BB gun. Tony
 
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My first rifle was the Bengamin pump, pre-WWII, and I bought it from a friend in 1943. BB's were available at that time with the war going on. I got in trouble with people up the street by shooting birds in there yard. This model had a pump that pulled out the front end and I would get on the curbe, jump up to pump. I found the same model about 15 years ago which I had been seeking. The straight pump model are hard to find. A fellow in Arlington Tx. can rebuild all these old air rifles.
 
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A Benjamin 22 cal that I still own. I got it when I was 8 and I just turned 50. It's been rebuilt twice and needs it again. The "bluing" is about all gone down to shiny brass, the pump handle broke so I made one in high school wood shop. Still wears the factory peep I put on it a few years after I got it. Killed a load of critters with it including its ultimate trophy, a big ol' Canadian honker. Man the memories. Nice post.
 
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My frist was a daisy red ryder my frist kill was a starling off the blue birdhouse at age 5.

My mother told me get your bb gun an kill that starling. A nice puff of feathers for sure.

Lots of critters fell to that one and a sears bb gun that you cocked by pushing the barrel in.

BB gun wars oh hey but we were smart enough to wear eye and head protection. Safety googles over helmets made out of trk inner tubes.
And rules lever guns only and no head shots on purpose.

You learned to wear loose shirts and pants a hit with tight jeans on left a nice black and blu spot.

Got to use the 22 about 8yoa but still use the BB gun a lot until I brought my own 22 at 12 a Rem nylon 76 lever action for 20 dollars from a add in the paper.
 
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You could start another poll on this. Who knows who Red Ryder was? Us old geezers will know, but a heck of a lot here don't know.
 
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We had a sand pit nearby, and would take our model tanks, planes, army men, etc there and bombard them from up a little grade, great fun.

By this time I had a Daisy pump, later I would replace the buttstock with a pistol grip (custom job, did it on a scroll saw we had in the basement hilbily ) for BB gun fighting.

You had to make cool noises while you shot BB's at the models. Used to make them while drawing battlefield scenes in grade school, got me busted.
 
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It made me check other even though I started with a firearm. My parents would not let me have a bb gun as my dad thought they were toys but I could have a 22. My first gun was a savage model 24 in .22/410 at about 8 years old. My first gun I "owned" was a savage 24 in .22/20ga at 14. My first bb gun was a .22cal pellet gun I bought at 18. Not really a bb gun I know but air rifle anyway.

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This thread brings up some memories I haven't had in many years. Right after war (and I am referencing THE war WWII for you youngsters) steel air rifle shot was fairly scarce in my town so my Grandfather came up with a solution. Dried okra seed. Sort out the right size and it works perfectly well but doesn't shoot very hard. Also a bit of trivia there was a dimension mill in my home town that made all kinds of handles and such. They made all the Butt stocks for the reissue of the Red Ryder and especially the walnut ones on the presentaion ones. I think I had a dozen or so of those around for years. The owners were family friends for many years. They were the only place I ever knew that worked holly. They made shuttles for the woolen mills back east. Mostly they worked hickory into ladder rounds and made many truck loads of drum stick blanks for Slingerland & Lundy also made ski staves that went to Norway. Totally useless trivia but you brought up the memories so it's your fault.


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a savage 24 in .22/20ga at 14

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RED Rider...

right out of one of my favorite Holiday Movies each year....

" You'll put your eye out Kid!"

my mom use to harp the exact same thing...
 
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You left out an option. Pellet Rifle

I started out W/"other", a Rochester .22 pump up pellet rifle.

I started my son off on a .22 PR too albeit a much higher quality piece. A spring piston RWS M48 Diana.

W/light weight Walley World Daisy pellets, that sucker will pass completelt through a pidgeon shot from below through the brest & splatter blood & feathers on the roof planks in the hay mow.

I tried some of the super heavyweight "Kodiac" pellets & those would penetrate 1" rough sawn pine planks & still make a pretty good whallop when they impacted the opposite wall.

Needless to say I didn't feel too comfortable turning a teenager loose on the farm W/a tin full of the Kodiacs.


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Daisy model 25 pump. Shot it so much, I had to hold a finger behind the trigger when I worked the pump or it would "slam fire". Guess the sear wore down on it.
 
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