Well after owning a Rem 700 fully accurized by Darrell Holland in 6mm Ackley with a 1-7 Lilja for the 107 Matchking all set up for 1000+ yard shooting, now I've been hit by the VELOCITY bug. A pal has loaned me a reamer for the 6mm-06 Ackley, and I have a GEW-98 just sitting around so I ordered ONE OF THESE and the dies from Midway as well (the dies, which BTW was on sale for 46% off!!! ). So, by Wednesday, the kit and kaboodle will be at my local gunsmith for some easy machining.

With all that said, does anyone out there have any pet loads for this caliber that they are willing to share? I was looking at purchasing a bulk box of the 70 grain Speer TNTs and seeing what I could wring out of them, but I figured that I'd ask around a bit here first. Thanks for any info that you could share!

Woodie:

Skip the 70 grain TNTs' they won't take that much velocity with that twist rate.. all you will do is vaporize them!

Good luck with the project....

I have a 6mm Remington on a long action and one guy at the range one day was shooting a 6mm/06 and he was not getting that much more velocity than I was, if at all.... and using a lot more powder in the process!!! ( plus eroding his throat big time!)

I'd just stick to some 105 grain AMaxes, 107 Sierras, 105 and 115 grain Bergers and that magical 1000 yds fun.....

a 6/06 Ackley with a one in 7 twist is WAY over the redline for a lot of those smaller bullets....

A 75 grain Hornady HP might be a lot of fun, and give you what you are looking for tho.... ( speaking from experience!) IN my 6mm Rem, with IMR 4964, I am getting about 3650 to 3725 fps with that bullet out of a 24 inch barreled Remington 700.. ( long action)....

good luck and cheers
seafire

The Adams and Bennett barrel that I ordered for the 6mm-06 Ackley project has a 1-10" twist so "maybe" it won't be too hard on those lighter bullets spinning apart, though I have heard of that happening before in a .22-250 Ackley.

Now that I'm looking at bullets, I am thinking that a box of 500 Sierra 70gr. Matchkings might be the ticket. I think that they would hold up better than the TNTs.

around 1967 I built what turned out to be a 6mm-.270 IMP.It was intended to be a 6mm-06 IMP but it got a little drunky out and the reamer went in about .050" to far.

With the Barnes original 110 and 115 gr. bullets it was a fantastic deer slayer. With any conventional hunting bullet of that day it was a fantastic crippeler.

With the light bullets and full loads you'll probably be buying another AB barrel shortly. Any barrel will ware fast with that cartridge, used with max. or near max. loads.

Make sure that the 98 is hard enough. roger

Heck, I'm just wanting a coyote ZAPPER that I can shoot without neccessarily getting the range right.

If I want to deer hunt, I'll use my beloved .35 Whelen.

BTW folks, my Rem 700 6mm Ackley improved that I mentioned above is a BENCH REST rifle weighting around 16.5 lbs., so this new super coyote zapper will be a carry rifle.

Woodsy- I'm a dedicated 6/06 nut, 10 twist is what I've personally used, but have been around several with 12's. May one day twist one on in the 7 or 8 range.

Even though the blokes at Sierra gave me a ration of crap abnout running the 107's in a 10 twist, it has worked just fine for me.

Your 10 twist will handle the 70's just fine. In my 6/06's with 10 and 12 twists I've yet to of had issues with the TNT' coming unraveled enroute. But to be honest, I've not tried super hard. I am sure if the throat is a bit froggy and you push them in the 4000 plus range (something you can do easily with the AI).

While I do appreciate the cost of the TNT's, and I personally feel they are the most accurate slug out there for any cal they make it in. I personally use the 70 NBT along with IMR 4350 in my 6/06's. I run a 25" tube and this runs those slugs right around 4000. Some tubes will be a bit more, some a bit less but 4000 is where it's been for most of the tubes I've worked with.

And this is with loads that allow you to keep your primer pockets intact for more than one or two firings.

Me thinks that you'll fall in love with this rig for serious dog sniping. The farthest we've taken a yote with this rig is 634. Said volunter hung up and would not come any closer so we put the 600 yard dot on him and lit him up. He just tipped over.

With the possible exception of a 240 Wby and the 25/06 I've yet to of found anything close to it's equal for this game.

As Seafire mentioned the standard 6 is a good one as well. I've run thru a few of those along with more than a few 240 Pages. I've not been able to run the 6 rem to the speeds that Seafire has but nevertheless it is one heck of a good round.

I do believe you'll like it, and you may want to give the 70 NBT a try as well. I've also had very good results with the 75 V-Max. I've found both of these slugs to work very well at the range and for rodents/yotes and deer and lopes as well.

Good luck to ya.

Oh yeah and if for some reason you care to be kind to the pelts get some of the 55 NBT's. You should be able to run them close to 4500 in the AI version and they will do very well for you on dogs that you call in.

Have fun and good luck to you.

Mark D

THANKS MARK!!! That was the kind of response that I was hoping for! Do you have any pet loads that you might want to share that won't get the primers loose, but will push the 4000 envelope, that you'd like to share? What is your favorite powder for the 70 grainers? IMR4350?

At least I won't have to neck turn this round like my tight neck 6mm Ackley. Just size 25-06 brass in the FL die and load 'em up!

I'm going to fireform using 100gr. NBTs, and while I'm breaking in the barrel, I will be firelapping it at the same time since the A&Bs are not lapped in from the factory.

Woods-your more than welcome, yeah IMR 4350 is my powder of choice with the 55's and the 70's.

Most of the 6/06's I've worked with have been 25 to 26" tube and will run right around 4000 fps.

I've used 57 of IMR 4350 for years and for most tubes this works quite well. One of the tubes I worked with would not quite take this much.

For your AI, whence your cases are formed I'd start off with 55 and work up from there. I'd guess you could go a couple of more grains than I can although I've no experience with the AI version.

I use either Rem nickle cases, or W-W and BR2 primers.

You have the makings for one heck of a yote rifle. I absolutely dote on mine. We've taken a boat load of critters from big to small with the 70 NBT. You'd be a bit amazed at some of the stuff we've snuffed with this boolit!

By the way the 70 NBT is not fur friendly at all, in fact my calling pard got to calling this rifle "Wilson". In reference to the fact that if you hit bone with this combo you'd have a hole big enough to punt a football thru....

I've always liked to use the analagy that it would put a whole in the yote big enough to pull a cat thru.

Mark D

any more questions just let me know and I'll do what I can 4 you.

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Originally posted by Mark Dobrenski:
Woods-your more than welcome.......

By the way the 70 NBT is not fur friendly at all, in fact my calling pard got to calling this rifle "Wilson". In reference to the fact that if you hit bone with this combo you'd have a hole big enough to punt a football thru....

Mark D

any more questions just let me know and I'll do what I can 4 you.

Gee, I wonder what your calling pard would think of a yote that was hit in the shoulder by my Rigby?!?

Thanks again for the words of encouragement, and if I need anything, I'll holler. I always get a bit excited when a new project falls into play!

Funny you should mention the Rigby, we were calling yotes one day. I was using my 6/06 and he his Burgess 416 Rigby. We ran accross a youngish porky (porcupine) he shot it as it "ran" away. It tossed the major parts of that lil porky 23 feet!!!

We used a 300 Barnes original with .032 jacket at 3025 fps if I remember right.

Mark D

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Originally posted by Mark Dobrenski:
Funny you should mention the Rigby, we were calling yotes one day. I was using my 6/06 and he his Burgess 416 Rigby. We ran accross a youngish porky (porcupine) he shot it as it "ran" away. It tossed the major parts of that lil porky 23 feet!!!

We used a 300 Barnes original with .032 jacket at 3025 fps if I remember right.

Mark D

That is absolutely hilarious!!!!!