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| Try IMR 4759 it works great for reduced loads. 18 grains might be a good start. |
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| If you look on hodgon's website for load data you will see a load for IMR trail boss and a 100gr Hornady bullet. 14.something minimum to 19.something maximum. Bullet traveling around 1700fps with a max load. I am sure the report would be around that of a 22mag or similar. It would work for 150yds or under. |
| Posts: 743 | Location: Las Vegas | Registered: 23 June 2009 |
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| You will be impressed with the down-loads once you figure out which you want. I did it years ago in Az for my .243. I took a 70 grain SX down to 2300 fps and it was great. It did not tear up the fur and killed really well. With the reduced velocity, you will probably be better off with a more frangible bullet. A heavier bullet may not open well and be like shooting a solid which can lead to a lost animal. |
| Posts: 224 | Location: North Platte, Nebraska | Registered: 02 February 2005 |
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| Thanks for the info. Just finished my deer hunting with the 25-06, so I will look into these recipes. I assume I should stick with "varmit" bullets vs the 117sierras i am currently using to assure expansion. |
| Posts: 392 | Location: Western Massachusetts | Registered: 05 March 2005 |
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| Use cast bullets. A 30-06 can be reduced down to blast and recoil level of a .22 rimfire. The 25-06 would be tame indeed and the cast bulets should work great on coyotes. |
| Posts: 3811 | Location: san angelo tx | Registered: 18 November 2009 |
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| Useing the rule of thumb for smokless powder that for evey % change of the load weight (up or down) you get the same % change in speed and double the change in pressure (5% less powder gives 10% less pressure) and a 75gr bullet w/4895 and Hog's 60% min. load works out to 28.8 grs for 2185fps and 10,16 cups of pressure. Max load is 3600+ and 51,000 cups. |
| Posts: 538 | Location: North of LA, Peoples Rep. of Calif | Registered: 27 November 2004 |
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| Here is a PS: to my last post. If you go with a bigger buller(117gr Hor RN) that is ment for the smaller 25s at lower speed (25-35/25Rem/25Sav) then the minum load of H4895 would be 24gr @ 1679fps and 10,100cups. |
| Posts: 538 | Location: North of LA, Peoples Rep. of Calif | Registered: 27 November 2004 |
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| the 4895 works very well downloaded. i use the rem 86 gr in my 257 bob at 2400 fps. i thought it was quite a bit slower than that till i put it over my chronograph. the recoil is rediculously mild, and it's very accurate. |
| Posts: 5004 | Location: soda springs,id | Registered: 02 April 2008 |
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| All these loads will kill coyotes at 150 yards but most of them still have a loud report..Even my 25-35 shooting the 86 gr Rem 25-20 bullets at 2200 FPS is pretty loud, that and it wouldn't shoot for beans in my 94 SRC Win..The gun shoots factory 117 gr. bullets at two inches at 100 yards..The 86 gr. Remingtons went to a 3 ft. plus group, that's big! Needless to say I pulled the bullets and went back to square one..I have tried those bullets n several win. and they never work...They might shoot in your 25-06 however load them to about 2200 to 2300 FPS and they should be explosive on varmints.
Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120
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| Posts: 42228 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000 |
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| Ray and others: My goal for downloading the 25-06 is to find a relatively quiet 150yd Coyote rifle. If downloading isn't significantly quieter, then any recommendations for rifle caliber? I have always read that the Hornet is effective and quiet. Any others? |
| Posts: 392 | Location: Western Massachusetts | Registered: 05 March 2005 |
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| quote: Thanks for the info. Just finished my deer hunting with the 25-06, so I will look into these recipes. I assume I should stick with "varmit" bullets vs the 117sierras i am currently using to assure expansion.
I haven't tried the Trail Boss out just yet, but did pick a bottle up to play around with. I have however used the H-4895 loads in a couple of rifles and they are somewhat quieter, but still have a pretty decent report. Given that my 25-06 barks everyone on my friends 1500 acre place knows it was me that shot, I would have to say that any reduction would help. If I were to drop the loads down I would probably go with the 100gr Sierra or Nosler Ballistic Tip. Either of them should reliably give at least double caliber expansion down to around 1700'ish fps. Might not be ideal for deer, but for a yote should be just fine.
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| 30 grains of 4198, or RL7 with any bullet weight 100 grains or less would make a good load in a 25/06... a 90 grain Sierra FMJ would be a good choice of bullet to use.. |
| Posts: 16144 | Location: Southern Oregon USA | Registered: 04 January 2005 |
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