This may not be a fair comparison, but....

Am sitting on the fence possibly between an Anschutz .222 with Heavy barrel and a Remington Classic 700 in .222. Both rifles are nearly mint.

While I am ready to spring for the Annie at almost double the price plus would want an extra magazine (ouch) at about $70.

Am leaning towards the Annie for quality, smoothness of action and trigger. Are rear locking lugs an issue with this caliber?

But, am leaning towards the Remington for the front locking lugs, no need for extra magazine, and heavier overall action.

Not having shot a Remington 700 before, am not familiar with how low the trigger can be set, nor how smooth the pull will be compared to the Annie.

Having an Anschutz Hornet with that same 54 action, am not wild about the Annie safety, very stiff and somewhat backwards.

Accuracy comparison and all things considered, would appreciate help with opinions of those that are familiar with both in that caliber.

THANKS, take care, and have a great week.

"Bo"

BoCash3:

What about a Sako L46? There is a mint one for sale on Gunsamerica. Its one I am selling.

Jordan

A steyr Prohunter could be a good choice. TEnd to be very accurate.

Remington triggers can go about to 2.5#s and are really crisp and clean. The Classic is a great gun, proven shooter. I have (5) of them and all are under 1/2 moa rifles. I would personaly go for the 700 but that is just my preference, I do not know that much about the An.

Perry

Both the Annie and the Remmy will shootr well for you and I wouldn't be swayed by the rear locking lugs.

That said....if there was a Sako L-461 available.....I'd grab it in a heartbeat

targets? the remmie can be fitted with a trigger whose pull is measured in fractions of an ounce.
I have a rifle with a Kostanich re-worked 700 trigger that is a two-stage ounce and three eighths total pull. The second stage is under half an ounce.

Rich
DRSS

as the old show title goes - annie get your gun

the Remie tripple deuce will be a good walking rifle. The Annie would be a hunker down and blast.
So the only solution is to get both.

Get the Annie if you can. You can buy a Remington anytime.

Bo:

Good luck in your rifle selection. I am a big fan of the Remington Classics and the .222 in that model would be a very nice rifle. Of course, pretty tough to beat the Anschuts for accuracy.

Best,


Jordan

I've got a 222 in an early 722 40X and a first year 700. Both are very accurate. I spose I could sell them both and buy an Anschutz. Nah!

I have no experience of an Anschutz in anything other than a Hornet, and that was not mine. It belonged to a friend who lives in Montana. This gun whilst having all the prestige of it's well known pedigree would not shoot. He got rid of it and got a lowly CZ Hornet to replace it, that shoots. I personally have taken PD's out to 200 yards with it and he has gone beyond that on PD's and rabbits.

I do have a 222 in the lowly CZ and it is a shooter. I have been bowling over big fat Highland rabbits at ranges in excess of 200 yards with it, no bother at all.

So, if I were you and I wanted a pedigree in the kennel then get the Annie, if you wanted a working dog in there I would get a CZ, for a lot less money.

John

I have a Sako A1 in .222 and consider it to be one of my best rifles.
The A1 is the model that came between the L-461 and Model 75 I believe.

It is a tiny twin lug, front locking mauser setup and is a real gem.
Very lightweight, great trigger, beautiful walnut and it shoots way better than that light whippy barrel really has a right to.
The floorplate magazine holds 6 rounds.

The only downside I can see with these rifles is they require special Sako designed scope mounts that match the tapered dovetails that are cut into the action.

Unfortunately Sako no longer offers rifles chambered for .222 in their newer models so you will have to go secondhand if you want a Sako.

Of course then there is also the Tikka T3 which is currently offered in .222 in all versions of the rifle.

I'd go with the Anshutz. As someone said, you can always buy a remington. I've never cared much for them anyway
As for the caliber, It's my favorite 22 cal by far and I'd say the best 22 cal cartridge ever made.. but that's just my opinion .
It's a very balanced & efficient cartridge that's very accurate inherently. It's also very easy to handlod well & very forgiving.

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Originally posted by JAYB:
I do have a 222 in the lowly CZ and it is a shooter. I have been bowling over big fat Highland rabbits at ranges in excess of 200 yards with it, no bother at all..
John

JayB! You are a lucky man. My CZ 527 American, .222 has the repeatability of a .22rf Mossberg carbine. roger

I can tell you one thing about rear locking lugs, no one ever complained about the accuracy of the 788 Remingtons, they usually shot very well, I owned a beater in 222 with slighty shortened barrel and poor attempt at crowning, and it shot very well. There are those who search high and low for the 788's. Many varmint hunters "coyote hunters' liked them, perhaps due to their detach magazine.

There is one advantage, very fast lock time often associated with rear lugs to my knowledge, though a benchrest shooter attempted to explain to me you sometimes get slightly more case stretch, something I doubt you would notice in 222.

I would love to know how those Euro 222's shoot like Anshutz, and Steyr, etc. Passed on a Mannlicher Steyr with Double Triggers once for give or take a grand. I think today they are far higher, it seems 850 was the price.

I Love the Sako's, but an Anshutz might trump it slightly, nothing bad ever seen read or heard about an 'Anshutz', they are top grade. I think you would be telling yourself, 'wise investment' if you get it. If there is a way to test fire it first, that would answer my question.

If the Anshutz shoots as I can imagine, it is worth a premium price. The barrel should be great, as should the trigger-should be adjustable. The rem is adjustable-trigger, and if it is an older one, the springs are lower tension allowing a lighter pull.

CZ's have good barrels and nice set triggers, but myself, like the better finish on the Sako, etc. It's personal preference, but if you want quality, you should have complete confidence in the anshutz. Let us know what you do and how it does.

Hi Gang

To sum up my "hunt," I found a rifle this morning that will work for now. I was actively trying to get an older Anschutz .222 heavy barrel but the guy advertising it on a gun site will not respond to my (3) email notices where I wanted to purchase. I gave him 10 days to answer, but nada.

I was leaning towards a heavy barreled .222 and through the help of a board member, I found an older Remington .222, M-700 Varmit Special for a reasonable price. This means I have to get another scope, dies, brass, etc. as .222 is one caliber I have never owned. I have plenty of suitable bullets and powders.

Meanwhile, I still have a friend looking for the perfect heavy barreled Anschutz (for me) and we have all the time in the world.

Thanks to all here for their help and suggestions. "Bo"

Let me start by saying this is my OPINION, based on MY experiences. It is not presented as absolute God's truth, YMMV.

I have owned many Anschutz rifles; still have a couple. BUT, if I wanted a good accurate rifle in .222, I wouldn't even consider an Anschutz, if I could get either a Remington 722 or 700 in equivalent condition.

I honestly have found, in my experience, that Anschutz fills a slot in Europe similar to what Weatherby fills in the U.S. They have a nice finish. They have a high price for what you get. They have absolutely superb salesmanship and hype. Having said that, how much better is a Weatherby than many other rifles available for less money?

Right.

Well, I feel exactly the same about Anschutz.

I do not find their workmanship to be any better than, if as good as, lots of other rifles. I find their materials to be somewhat "tacky", when it comes to things such as sights, stock fittings, buttplates, etc. I find them to be, overall, considerably more "delicate" in field use than a number of other rifles.

That does not mean they never make good rifles. Some of their rifles are superbly accurate, just as some Weatherbys are. It does mean that for MY use, I think there are better choices, where my chances of getting greater accuracy and good service life are higher, by the time I have invested the same total amount of money.

I think that with your Remington, if you upgraded it with half the money difference between its cost and the price of a good grade of Anschutz, you will likely have a rifle that will answer every question you may ever ask it.

Having said that, my favorite .222s at the moment are an L-46 Sako, and a single shot "el cheapo" Brno.

Enjoy your Remington, With a little TLC, you and it may have a real love affair as the relationship matures.

go for the rem as the annie 222 that i had and i think all are made in 222 with ex long throat to keep preas down not very good for acc .buc

Either rifle will serve you well. The anschutz is definitely a more refined rifle and a much better build quality than remington. However accuracy is not always guaranteed by spending more money! As for the safety catch, it will wear in and become smoother with use. Rear locking lugs are not an issue at all, they are perfectly safe. Plenty of rifles of larger calibres have been made using this system. Finally i own an anschutz myself and would recommend anschutz to anyone.

what alberta canuck said,x2..... he realy nailed that one!!!regards jjmp