Try going to heavy bullets. Bedded and floated, mine will not shoot anything in 50-55 gr.



Then I accidentally loaded some 70gr Speer semi-spitzers in cases I reserve for this rifle. Got to the range today and Presto!- .55" and .7" @ 100yds. If not for that mistake I may never have tried those in that 1-12" tube.



(And I forgot my magazine for the CZ 527. I would love to see some flush after-market bottom metal for them. Three shots in the field would be fine for me.)

Now you tell me. I had a UL 223 that never shot well and I was using 55's. Nice rifle, I really liked it. Wound up selling it to a self admitted 6'4" "recoil wimp" who uses it for coyotes and coastal blacktails, he loves it.

That 70 grain Speer is a real sleeper in the 223 world. Every year I wait in hesitation to see if Speer was going to drop it.

It makes a 223 into a decent deer rifle in a lot of the places in the USA.. A 223 one can get it moving at 2800 to 3000 fps in a 24 inch barrel. The Semi Pointed design does very very well for penetration and the bullet is definitely not listed for varmints like prairie dogs, or sage rats.

Another good sleeper is the 63 SMP Sierra, and I also suspect their new 65 grain SP will do well. The 60 grain Hornady SP is another sleeper.

YOU boys just need to think outside the box a little more!

That Ruger Ultra Lite is a very nice 223.! But I like my discontinued Winchester Featherweight in 223 a lot better.

Cheers and Good shooting
seafire

Is the ultra lite yall are talkin about the mountain rifle styled one with a 20 inch barrel or the 16 inch youth lookin model? Reason i ask is cause im lookin at the mountain rifle type in a number of calibers and i just havnt shot one so i dont know how well they perform.

Sirs: I got one four years ago for the purpose of rebarreling it to .17 because I really liked the stock styling. It shot so well I couldn't take the chance that any new barrel would do better. It is very short throated and the magazine box is short too. But the chamber is very well done, shoots the Sierra smp series very well and the Speer 70's also. The real treat though is the Hornady 40 grain v-max at 3650 fps going into .6" at 100 with AA2200. I did put a new trigger in it, but did not touch anything else. Makes you feel good after the dogs you occasionally buy in new green boxes. Short throat, blunt, or light bullets. Good hunting, ned

Shiloh,



Mines the 16.5 (from bolt face) bbl in stainless.



Since the stock is laminated they should be called the "Fairly Light" (I skeletonized the stock inside)



Ned,

You just sent me back to the drawing board, you evil man!

And I never mentioned Sierra 55 grain Gamekings/AA2015/ 7-1/2 primers, just off the lands, if they also feed, either, my favorite deer load for Talliaferro County woods deer. Good hunting, ned

Ned,

I cut the box spacer and moved it back about .10". It got me out to the lands on every bullet style, trying to find an accurate load. It didn't feed well because of the ejector. Never did cut the ejector back because when I gave up accuracy testing I decided I'd just find the best load that would interchange with my ARs. So I just put a factory box back in.



Is that the Taliaferro Co. in GA? When I hunted there in the 70's along the Little River there were lots of NC guys hunting there. We hunted the old McAfee place; it had an old delapidated antebellum plantation house. We slept in the old slave cabin....

Yes, in Georgia, late 80's through late 90's, in the woods all the time. [Think bolt gun for accuracy (in most instances). Make the best for it in small lots, make it by big numbers for whatever.] There were old cotton terraces visible in the woods, super pines and 5-foot thick white oaks, redbugs that could cripple a gnubigh with a single bite. The best 10 point typical I ever took came from there, using an 8X56 M-S. Shot a lot of round ball then all around Atlanta at various clubs, belonged to Riverbend for years. Still miss the early squirrel season in Georgia. N.C. is a retired thing. Regards, ned

I have a Ruger Ultra-Lite in 223 that I had a 3 1/2 inch group, with a 55 grain bullet, since I bought it in 1989. I solved the problem by doing the following:
Verifying the twist:
Start a tight patch; being sure the jag is tight on the rod.
Mark the rod with a felt tip to indicate Top Dead Center and a starting point.
Advance the rod until it comes back to Top Dead Center.
Measure the distance traveled from the start mark. That is the rifling twist, one turn in xx inches.
A lot easier than trying to estimate the amount of twist in a foot.
I called Ruger and they told me it was a 1-10 twist. It has a 1-12 twist with a pencil thin barrel.
I was using 27.5 grains of Win. 748.
I called Sierra...They told me to:
55 grain...21.5 grains of Win. 748
60 grain...25.0 grains of Win. 748
You can cover their groups with a dime. The secret is to cool the barrel and keep it cool.

Ned, here's a Talliaferro County buck from 1972. Just a "little" 9 pointer.

Hey Bill, That's a nice one. You must have had open land to hunt it having horns that big. I hunted 7 miles from Brer Rabbits home on high land that had been wild since the draft took all the young farmers in 1942. Thick, but the ridges and bottoms were super. I still have a set of horns from my hunting there, but I ate the rest of the evidence.