I want a 22 bolt gun to practice shooting from field positions / working the bolt. I've shot levers and single shots mostly, and now I'm hunting w/ a bolt.

I have a Ruger 10/22 for small game, so I'm looking for a full size 22. (I will probably have the barrel threaded.)

I'm trying to decide between a Ruger 77/22 and a CZ 455. I would love to find a gently used Anschutz, but that is expensive.

I'm leaning towards the CZ 455 - low initial price, drop in Lija barrels available, Timney triggers available.

I'd appreciate others thoughts / experiences.

Thanks,
QD

Did just that. 455, Lilja, Boyds thumbhole, Timney, Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44. Eley Match. Phenominal shooter.

To me the Ruger 77/?? feels more like a full size rifle than a CZ455 does if that matters. I like the safety better too.

The newer 77/22's are now threaded to the receiver instead of clamped in like the 10/22 barrel is. I don't know for a fact this makes a big difference but I bought a 77/17 a few years ago that is without a doubt the most accurate rimfire I have ever owned in my life. Being a 17HMR certainly doesn't hurt but I've owned a few and this one really shines. All it needed was a little trigger work.

I've never owned a CZ455 but I use to own a CZ452 .22LR Varmint. It was a nice little rifle that was a little rough around the edges. You could do a lot worse.

For accuracy I've had much better luck with CZ rimfires than Ruger.

look around and find yourself a nice kimber

Do you belong to a Rod&Gun Club?

If so, PM me.

I actually belong to a very neat gun club in the middle of the now famous Research Triangle Park.

We have office buildings behind our berm!

Winchester 52 R , a zanders HB if you can find one..

Try and find a Remington 513 SA sporter. This is one on the finest 22s you can use for training. Feels more like a full sized rifle and shoots fantastic.

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Try and find a Remington 513 SA sporter. This is one on the finest 22s you can use for training. Feels more like a full sized rifle and shoots fantastic.

+1 On that one.

The Rugers bolt 22s are VERY hit or miss on accuracy.

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JTEX, Don't you own a full sized 22 that weighs roughly 10lbs? If I remember right it has a beautiful finish. (Break my arm patting my back) It will also shoot one hole at 50 yards open sights if you can. LOL! Sorry for being a smartass, I just couldn't resist. These guns were originally trainers as well as match guns. There are lots of choices out there. Don't limit yourself to the usual mass marketed ones.

Butch has it right on the Kimber govt model. By the time you do all the upgrades you need to anything else you will have more money invested and it probably will still not shoot as well as these. You have to be careful with the older Anschutz as many were cobbled together from parts. They will still need a lot of work unless you find a really nice one and then you will pay up for the premium. I know on this one from personal experience. When you get them done the Anschutz of course are first rate but again you are going to sink some serious money into one unless you get very lucky. The old Mossberg govt/civilian models are hit and miss but can at times be very good value. Still mostly a lot of work. I probably own 30 or 40 different 22s that are either in the process of being restored, premium, or just plain junk. I think Anschutz and Kimber brands are the top 2 followed by Mossberg are the best value for trainers. I don't even mention Winchester or Remington because they sell at too much of a premium.

Mike

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JTEX, Don't you own a full sized 22 that weighs roughly 10lbs? If I remember right it has a beautiful finish. (Break my arm patting my back) It will also shoot one hole at 50 yards open sights if you can. LOL! Sorry for being a smartass, I just couldn't resist. These guns were originally trainers as well as match guns.

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I surely do! Great rifle! Got it from a fine feller right here on AR. Two of my buddies also got the same rifle ( not as purty as mine though) from that very same fella!

But I wouldn't recomend that style for practicing for hunting. No magazine, stock shaped quite a bit different from a sporter and micrometer aperature sights.

But for benchresting and shooting little tiny groups.....man oh man!


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JTEX's Kimber of Oregon model 82 22 rifle is darn nice and accurate. Hard to believe it was intended to be a military trainer, having such nice wood and finish.

Just wonder what kind of 200 yd group it will shoot.

A fellow range member with JTEX.

Winchester had a reissue run of Model 52 sporters sometime in the early 1990s. Made by Miroku. Fine guns with excellent finish. Not often you find one, but if you do, and it's in good shape, buy it. I have a Leupold vari-power scope on mine...highly accurate.

In the contemporary market...I received a Savage Mark II as a FNRA award. Not pretty, but with good scope, very accurate.

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I've had good results from the Zastava Model 5. I bought one when Remington was closing them out and it shoots great. The thing I like the best is the size. It's almost the size as one of my standard hunting rifles.

Ruger had a limited run of 223 caliber African rifles made. I find it's a great trainer for the big brother 375 Ruger. I have mine set up the same.

I have an older Stevens .22 bolt single shot that has served me well for many years. For what you describe, you probably wouldn't need a magazine. A single shot will shoot shorts as well as long rifle .22.

Another use: Sometimes in the spring rut for birds, we get these dumb birds fighting their reflection in our windows. I've tried mono-filament line but they just move to another window. Only recourse has been a rat shot .22 shell in my trusty Stevens, then wire brush the barrel.

I'd look for a BRNO MOdel 1. They are neat rifles.

Look for a Win mod 75

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I'm leaning towards the CZ 455

Sako quad with a manners full size prone stock

Thanks for the great thoughts here. I've learned about a few new rifles.

I want to practice reloading, so that rules out single shots including the very excellent CMP Kimbers.

A Sako Quad would be wonderful, although I would want a sporting stock - not the very cool Manners prone stock. However, if I was going to spend that much money, I would just get a Kimber or Anschutz or maybe an older Win M52.

I think I'll rule out the Rugers. The new Ruger American rimfire would be interesting based on price if it came pre-threaded. My guess is one will come out in a few months.

This kind of leaves me with the CZ455, but I'm still open to suggestions. Any deals on Annies?

QD

Look around for one of the Norinco K-98 trainers built on a BRNO cloned action. Big and shoot great.

Just my two cents:

Look around for a " Rem 513-T " or " Rem 521-T".



Rem 540 XR, Rem 513-T , Rem 521-T


513-T, with 4x Scope.

IMHO: Best buy for the money, & the most underrated Single Shot Target Rifles:CMP H&R M12..

The Stocks are not that great.. But that can be worked around..

Custom Stocked H&R M12


Custom Stocked " H&R M12 " / Stock H&R M12 / Kimber 82G