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| jro,
That's great shooting. When I get two shots in or almost in one hole I call it quits. Experiance has shown that with sporters thats exceptional shooting. |
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| Jro45: I am so happy for you and your good shooting Weatherby! I have owned some Weatherbys in the past and have been around them a lot. They have shot well for me and for the owners I know. Right now I only have one factory Weatherby Rifle and that one is in 224 Weatherby caliber. It shoots real well (German manufactured). My normal grouping for it is .600" to .700" for 5 shots at 100 yards. About 12 years ago I bought a custom 240 Weatherby with a heavy Hart barrel (27") and it was made on the pre-64 Winchester Model 70 action. A great and safe Rifle it has been. And it shoots very well also. I often get 5 shot groups right at or just under .500" at 100 yards. It has a Leupold 6.5X20 scope on it. What a wonderful long range Antelope/Coyote/Deer Rifle it is! I guess what I am trying to say is the old time rumors that the radiused shoulders and belted cases of the Weatherby cartridges would not allow good performance accuracy wise were just that - rumors. I find the Weatherby calibers I have shot do just fine in the Varmint and Game Fields and also at the range! Continued good luck with yours! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy |
| Posts: 3067 | Location: South West Montana | Registered: 20 August 2002 |
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| VarmintGuy, you forgot the Weatherby free bore. that cant help the accuracy any. |
| Posts: 159 | Location: Saskatchewan | Registered: 14 November 2002 |
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| VarmintGuy,
You are right about the rumors and Weatherby. And the includes the one about the free bore being a problem. If it were a problem that why is Weatherby the only rifle company with a written accuracy guarantee? The .257 Weatherby is the King of the Quarter Bores and is noted for it's accuracy. Lawdog |
| Posts: 1254 | Location: Northern California | Registered: 22 December 2002 |
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| I love my Weatherby but we need to get one thing straight pard. The LAW just dont go around here Lawdog...Savy |
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| 25 WSM, 257 Wby performance in a short action. |
| Posts: 439 | Location: USA | Registered: 01 December 2003 |
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| BEARCAT -- Sounds like some more WSM marketing jive to me - can you patiently explain to me how the WSM makes the same velocity at the same pressures as the Weatherby in a shorter barrel?? Have they indeed altered the laws of physics? Really??
DREAM ON ---- Joe |
| Posts: 33 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 22 June 2002 |
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If you want to shoot the real King of Quarterbores that is not an overbore barrel burner, build yourself a .257 Ackley Improved! Ackley said it, I believe it and thats all there is to it! OK flame me now. Jim
Yep and if you you look in the loading data for his books a 270 Win is as fast as a 270 Weatherby............ with the loads he listed, at the time he wrote the book, which was before quite a few powders came out etc. Lots of good information in those books but lots of stuff is out of date. |
| Posts: 226 | Location: New Mexico | Registered: 10 October 2003 |
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| You mean IF you can get those stubbys to feed right eh ! Now is that the Wsm or WSSSSm or the.... oh never mind. I'll just stick with my non shooting innacurate freebored Weatherby that sinks five shots in a 3/4" hole. |
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| I didn't say there was anything wrong with the Wby, I'd love to have one. It just so happened that I had a short action laying around and I wanted a quarter bore that would perform like the Wby so thats what I did. My favorite big game cart. is my 300 Wby. Jezzz you guys are touchy |
| Posts: 439 | Location: USA | Registered: 01 December 2003 |
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| lmao yeeha I do get touchy about my favorite gal That was not directed at you so much as just this general wiffle brained idea that Weatherby does not make a good gun. I am not saying they are the best but I am saying I'd stick with mine over the WSSM right now. Sorry, I didn't mean to spit nails just empty brass |
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| JRO, what model did you get? My Deluxe had some accuracy problems, so I sent it back to a Weatherby service center in Dec. Still don't have it back. I suspected that the wood stock was putting allot of pressure on my barrel, but decided to let them do the work for free. If I had known it was going to take this long, I would have done it myself. Anyway, they evidently relieved some of the pressure and recut the crown. All he has to do is test fire it now, but says the weather has been too bad. I don't think he floated the barrel though. Have any of you floated a 257 Weatherby? The gunsmith swears up and down that it won't shoot right if this is done. Is there something special about Weatherby rifles that makes this true? Maybe I'll get lucky and won't have to worry about it, but there is always room for improvement. |
| Posts: 445 | Location: Connellsville, PA | Registered: 25 April 2002 |
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| ChuckWagon, Quote:
You mean IF you can get those stubbys to feed right eh ! Now is that the Wsm or WSSSSm
Just how many rifles chambered for either the WSM or the WSSM have you OWNED< !--color--> that you have had feeding problems with? Make, Model, Caliber and Number Please. Lawdog |
| Posts: 1254 | Location: Northern California | Registered: 22 December 2002 |
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| The Law don't go around here law dog. Savy. You tell me how many YOU have had that do feed properly. It never ceases to amaze me when some one with limited cranial capacity trys to start a mudd slinging contest this way. I had 1, sold 1. End of story. If you want the serial # call 1-800 psychics are us. I did not like it. Others do not like the Weatherby. BIG DEAL. No matter what you set this up for some reason as a question that can not have a right answer either way. If you are going to be stupid you gotta get tuff. I have to ask since you are the big bad law dog and a " security specialist" ( I get twingly all over just typing that ) do you run into a lot of netwits that will put up the serial numbers of their guns just to float your over blown ego ??? How about it Law pup, Names and adresses |
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| Exactly. The only bore damage I have ever seen is just like you said. From guys that pound round after round through with out letting the barrel cool down at all. My post to Bearcat was meant to be humurous. Not condencending that is why I clarified it in a follow up post. I am not alone in having a WSSM that did not feed properly. If others have had better luck that is fantastic. I have had a few Weatherby's from the factory that were defective as well. I do not know of a single gun manufacturer that at some time has not produced a single defective product or came out with a cartridge that did not fly well. Winchester has had many of them over the years. The 375 Lever gun was a prime example of a damn good catridge BUT it did not sell. Why ? The question was why bother when the 35 had 70 years on it with identical ballistics. I was intrigued by the new short cartridges at first but I just do not see any advantage especially in the 25 WSSM. |
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| ChuckWagon, 1.] Win. M70 Coyote, .223 WSSM 2.] Win. M70 Featherweight, .270 WSM(son's but I shoot with him all the time) 3.] Win. M70 Coyote, .300 WSM(sister in-laws but at the moment it is at my house 4.] 11 Weatherby Mark V's in various calibers from .224 to .378(I threw these in because everyone says that the Weatherby cartridges have feeding problems of which I have never had a problem in 40+ years. I was not starting a flame war but I will do so if you want. I just get tired of hearing people talk about what they know nothing about. They repete rumor after rumor without ever having having used/been there/owned one. I know a number of other shooters that use the WSM cartridge in various rifles and a few that are using one of the WSSM cartridges and none have complained of feeding problems. I was curious to how many rifle you have owned in the WSM/WSSM line that gave you feeding problems. If you had a problem with a new rifle did you give the company a chance to make it right? A one time thing with one rifle is no reason to condemn the whole line. Any firearms manufacture can and has made a lemon or two. Lawdog |
| Posts: 1254 | Location: Northern California | Registered: 22 December 2002 |
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| I really didn't mean to start a pissin match over the WSM line of cartriges. I was just simply stating my experience with the with the quarter bores. My gun is a wildcat redone by a smith so it feeds just fine |
| Posts: 439 | Location: USA | Registered: 01 December 2003 |
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| If you read my post you will clearly see that I essentialy said the same thing you did in regards to ALL brands having some failures. I also indicated exactly how many WSSM's I had and a reference to my Weatherbys, as well as what I chose to do with my WSSM. You will always find plenty of others here that will call BS just what it is. Simply because you have been around the block a few times does not mean no one else knows any thing. I would think most any one who read my last post would plainly see that I have owned BOTH and had problems with BOTH. If the WSSM works for you I think that is great. I had two or three Weatherbys that did not stand up to MY expectations so I sold them and kept going until I got one that would group to my satisfaction. I guess the bottom line is that I chose to put my faith in the Weatherby and you chose to put yours is the WSSM. Good deal, we are both happy. If you go back and look at the initial post that caused you to take a hip shot you will see I ended it with That is because I would rather Joke and BS around than fight. Perhaps it is a failing of mine that I am content to accomodate either. |
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| Yes I appreciate that. I was not trying to start one either that was why I posted a follow up to you so you would know that was not my intent. Humor does not always come across on a forum. Their are those who will indeed simply try to read everything as negative as possible. |
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| geez, i saw the topic and was hoping to get some good 257 info with all the replies................... oh well. woofer |
| Posts: 741 | Location: vermont. thanks for coming, now go home! | Registered: 05 February 2002 |
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| You know what? I've had my 257 Weatherby Mk V. for over 22 years, have killed probably forty deer with it, and honestly cannot tell you how well it feeds. I put two shells in the magazine (don't know why) and I drop the last cartridge in the chamber when I load it and kill the damn deer with the first shot. Maybe I need to get it out of the safe and find out.... |
| Posts: 323 | Location: Keithville, La. USA | Registered: 14 February 2002 |
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| If I were King Weatherby's would rule the kingdom |
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| Weatherbys are awesome factory rifles, with awesome factory cartridges. These days folks have to invent cartridges just to keep up with something created 50 +- years ago. That alone should speak volumes. And they're still selling well. Trigger |
| Posts: 271 | Location: ALBANY,NY,USA | Registered: 28 December 2001 |
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| jethro, I got model 5. Has a Synthetic black stock on it and the barrel is 26" long and real dark blue almost black. |
| Posts: 2209 | Location: Delaware | Registered: 20 December 2002 |
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