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I'd like to accurize my Mini 14 and I found a website to a company in Colorado that does this, but I have since lost the address. Anyone have who this may be or someone else that does good work?


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Posts: 74 | Location: Somewhere between South Dakota and Arizona | Registered: 01 January 2011Reply With Quote
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If your MINI 14 is one of the older ones, I would suggest you not to spend the money to accurize it. Several have tried and have heard some were successful, but not many. Some of the problems accuracy wise was due to early versions were with 7 twist barrels and folks were shooting light bullets and not a good combo for best performance. Even with 69's or heavier, still not outstanding. There are firms offering accuracy work on these rifles and perhaps some have found the right approach??
Do understand the newest ones are much improved due to better barrels and 9 twist, but have no personal experience with the newer ones. JMO
 
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thanks for the input. Mine is an old one(bought it in 1980) and it shoots OK. Just wanted to see if I could get a little more out of it. I've been thinking about one of the AR style guns for a while. Maybe this will be a good reason to bite the bullet and do it.


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Your AR thoughts will be cheaper and more accurate in the long run.


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I hate to answer a question this way but like MFD said, if you do have an older Mini 14 I would sell it if I wanted a more accurate rifle.

That said, I heard some pretty good comments about this product from people that have tried it. MO-ROD

If you like the Mini 14 platform the newer models are something to look into. Ruger retooled the Mini line starting with the "580" series rifles. A few years after that they started putting a larger contour barrel on them also. The last one I owned was a solid 1.5 M.O.A. rifle which is pretty common for them now. Not as accurate as a good AR-15 but I consider it acceptable accuracy for a walking rifle. The Mini 14 has come a long way from the older models. You'll still hear a lot of carping about them from people that haven't shot one of the newer ones but rest assured they aren't 4-5 M.O.A. rifles like the old ones were.

If accuracy is your top goal (in a semi-auto)the AR-15 is the answer.

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i duno about others but i redid a old mini years ago. put on a heavy bbl and restocked it using the national match bedding system. chambered in 6x45 it shoots 3/4" groups all day long
 
Posts: 13466 | Location: faribault mn | Registered: 16 November 2004Reply With Quote
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I have rebarreled four of these in the past, all shot great. Used the Shilen barrels they make as accuracy ones, heavy barrels.


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I sold my 1980-vintage Mini after working on it for over a year. Bought a CAR-15 and never looked back. A far far better rifle.


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Posts: 677 | Location: Arizona USA | Registered: 22 January 2006Reply With Quote
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There is a lot of history on accurizing the Mini 14. C E Harris who used to write for The American Rifleman has written about seating the two halves of the gas block more precisely. In addition to this there is a problem with the thin barrel. You can certainly rebarrel with a heavier barrel, but by the time you are done with this you are probably better off buying a new gun. The newer Minis are supposedly significantly more accurate than the older ones. You could also try bolting a piece of solid steel rod to the barrel. This serves to stiffen the barrel and some have claimed that it works. This is certainly a cheap try. Some place makes a clamp where the top clamps to the barrel and the bottom clamps to the steel rod. I have a Mini 14 and plan on keeping it as is. It is very fast handling, very reliable and does not look like I am some kind of para military wannabe. If you google it there is a website that only talks about accurizing the mini 14!
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Save a few bucks & purchase an AK74-
Then you'll have 2 inaccurate rifles!!!

Purchase an AR-15 variation & don't look back.


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Ruger Mini 14........... a great example of "You build it, somebody will buy it!!" And Bill Ruger laughed all the way to the grave!! The AR platform is so far superior to that little gizmo they shouldn't be talked about in the same conversation!! Flame away folks!! GHD


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thanks for the input. Mine is an old one(bought it in 1980) and it shoots OK. Just wanted to see if I could get a little more out of it. I've been thinking about one of the AR style guns for a while. Maybe this will be a good reason to bite the bullet and do it.


I would agree with the latter part of your statement . As much as I like an respect Ruger ,this wasn't one of their better products or Ideas for that matter !!!.IMO !.

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If you check out Perfect Union.com you will find lots of info about the Mini 14.

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I'd pretty much agree with what everyone else says. The old Mini-14s just weren't accurate. If you really want an accurate Mini-14, sell the one you have and buy one of the new model Ruger heavy barreled ones.

If you just have to keep the one you have, these guys are the guys to take care of it:

http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/index.php

You could still get your gun accurized by them and pay less than a lot of AR-15s.


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Mini 14® Barrel Conversion Prices. You supply the rifle.
Ultra Match Premium Air Gauged Barrel Stainless steel Ultra Match Premium Air Gauged Barrel. Complete Package $949.99


Krieger Barrel - Single Point Cut Rifling Air Gauged in 416 Stainless or 4140 CM Blued Steel.
Barrel diameters - 1" Bull, .875" Varmint.
Length 24"
Twist rate to be determined by us depending on the weight & caliber of bullet. Finish on barrel satin matte or brushed.
3 point steel bedding pillars
New operating rod where needed or upgrade yours
11° Target crown
True bolt & action if needed
3.5# match trigger with take up adjustment screw.
New over sized hand guard to fit thicker barrel
New gas block, sling swivel, gas pipe and operating rod cup bushing
Sub - ¾ MOA accuracy guarantee for the 1" x 24" barrel size. (1.042" = 1 MOA) 3 shot group @ 100 Yards with factory selected ammo.
Calibers available @ this price. .223 Rem., .222 Rem, 6mm X .223, 300 Whisper, Other caliber's call for pricing and availability. 204 Ruger or 17 Remington add $85.00


OUCH !!!. I'd pass an jump on an AR for that type of coin !. Not trying to knock anyone ,I'm sure curious as what their two videos is supposed to demonstrate ,Rifle functions ?. No before an after target pics ?. Nothing !!!.


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Put the money in a nice shotgun. It will be more accurate.


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Posts: 1652 | Location: Deer Park, Texas | Registered: 08 June 2005Reply With Quote
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I've had a couple of Mini's and sold them both. I looked at what it would cost to have them worked on to improve accuracy and couldn't justify putting that kind of money into them when a AR15 is a better choice.
 
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There are a few cheap tricks that I picked up from a website (Perfect Union I think?)that won't break the bank and gave tighter groups in my Mini. Still not a target shooter but went from 4-5" to 2" with the right ammo.
Another problem with Mini's is making sure you have the right scope on it. They seem to shred poor scopes and scopes with all but the lowest profile windage turrets get beat on by the empties coming out.
Good luck with yours they are fun but not a tack driver unless you spend more than its worth to get it there.
 
Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
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Good advice and recommendations already. I do know that a few guys here who put on muzzle brakes for IPSC shooting saw an immediate improvement in accuracy. It's as though haning some weight on that skinny barrel helped. It's certainly one of the cheaper things to do and who knows, it may work for you too!
 
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Mini 14® Barrel Conversion Prices. You supply the rifle.
Ultra Match Premium Air Gauged Barrel Stainless steel Ultra Match Premium Air Gauged Barrel. Complete Package $949.99


Krieger Barrel - Single Point Cut Rifling Air Gauged in 416 Stainless or 4140 CM Blued Steel.
Barrel diameters - 1" Bull, .875" Varmint.
Length 24"
Twist rate to be determined by us depending on the weight & caliber of bullet. Finish on barrel satin matte or brushed.
3 point steel bedding pillars
New operating rod where needed or upgrade yours
11° Target crown
True bolt & action if needed
3.5# match trigger with take up adjustment screw.
New over sized hand guard to fit thicker barrel
New gas block, sling swivel, gas pipe and operating rod cup bushing
Sub - ¾ MOA accuracy guarantee for the 1" x 24" barrel size. (1.042" = 1 MOA) 3 shot group @ 100 Yards with factory selected ammo.
Calibers available @ this price. .223 Rem., .222 Rem, 6mm X .223, 300 Whisper, Other caliber's call for pricing and availability. 204 Ruger or 17 Remington add $85.00


OUCH !!!. I'd pass an jump on an AR for that type of coin !. Not trying to knock anyone ,I'm sure curious as what their two videos is supposed to demonstrate ,Rifle functions ?. No before an after target pics ?. Nothing !!!.


salute archer archer


Reminds me of a friend that was into customizing his 10/22 for a while. In the end he said that it would've been cheaper to buy an Anchutz and your still stuck with a Ruger!


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Here is another source for Mini-14 work.

Great West Gunsmithing
 
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Well, Boys, after all of these posts, talking to a couple of gunsmiths, and shopping for AR rifles, I decided on the AR after all (the Ruger SR556). I will end up with a much better rifle and a lot more options. Thanks for the input.


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Originally posted by butchloc:
i duno about others but i redid a old mini years ago. put on a heavy bbl and restocked it using the national match bedding system. chambered in 6x45 it shoots 3/4" groups all day long


Do you expect people who know rifles and gunsmithing to believe that BS? Roll Eyes
 
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