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At the range yesterday and trying some loads for the .224wby with 36 gr grenades. a guy come up to me and says "mate they shoot well but dont open up and just pencil through everything" not worth hunting with he says anyone else heard this? im running them at 4400fps | ||
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I've used them in a K-Hornet on sage rats and digger squirrels. They did not pencil through, they worked "as advertised." | |||
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My experience with them (We have to use lead free here) is that they do expand but that they are not "grenades". The Hornady V max in the same weights is much, much, more explosive on the same animals. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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thanks guys. i couldnt see them not expanding really  | |||
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i can say for certain that loaded up in a 22/250 at 75 yards there's nothing left of a crow but a cloud of black feathers | |||
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 Man, you look up "Screaming" in the dictionary and that what you find!Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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I think your chance meeting was with an idiot who was talking about the old original Barnes X-bullets. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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The varmint grenades do well on varmints. Never shot anything with them beyond 200. I really miss the Barnes Varminators. | |||
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They were really great bullets at a good price. I bought 1000 40 grainers and 1000 50 grainers as well as the same numbers of 58 and 72 grain 243's when they were discontinued. They still shoot as good as they used to and better than most everything else I've tried but I am partial. I live just a few miles away and have friends that work there. DW | |||
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Really? Any small caliber bullet traveling that fast is going to cause violent explosions upon impact. I dont think i know of any bullet that will pensil through it, that is the whole purpose of a varmit rifle is it not? They are Vermin and at put in the crosshairs for a reason. To be stopped in there tracks.... I like my .204 with the 32 gr V-Max, squirrels at 100 yrds turn into a pink mist... | |||
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You may be interested to know that hornady has come out with a lead free 30 gr 20 cal ballistic tip that has a much better BC than the VG's and is supposed to be just as explosive as the 32 gr V-max. The 30 gr BC is basically the same as the 32. I believe they have an update on them on their web site Savage Vaporizer | |||
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I have not shot any of these Varmint Grenades in my varmint rigs and wondered about the inherent accuracy that may they have????? Some reports around the gunshops have been that their accuracy potential is dismal at best. What has been your experience???? | |||
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I tried them in my 222 thinking they would be the bee's knee's.Results at the range left me humiliated and embarassed. | |||
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I'm shooting the 62gr VG's out of a 6x45mm, 6mm-204 Ruger and a 243 Win and they have proven to be very accurate out of all three. Killed a coyote this weekend with the 6mm-204 running them 3500fps and at 100yrds left a fist sized exit others I have talked to say they get alot of big exits. Called Barne and they said that would be pretty common, I was hopping they would be a little more fur friendly.  After the first shot the rest are just noise | |||
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Here's a couple of targets heres's some groups withe 243 #'s 1,2 and 3  375win After the first shot the rest are just noise | |||
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Don’t feel bad. Some of the test loads I fired with them couldn’t print 3 shots on an 8.5” X 11” target at 100 yards using Barnes data. There were loads that would print 4” but over all they were disappointing to say the least. The VG just didn’t work well in this rifle (220 Swift) but I’m going to try them in a 223 next time and see if I can’t get some satisfactory results. | |||
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They're bullets, not magic. Some rifles like 'em, some don't. | |||
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