How do you rate a schultz & larsen to other breeds of rifle. I understand they are built to be inherently accurate with any ammunition in any temperature and conditions you might find yourself shooting in.

Thoughts please or what would your preference be for something in .243?

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How do you rate a schultz & larsen to other breeds of rifle. I understand they are built to be inherently accurate with any ammunition in any temperature and conditions you might find yourself shooting in.

This may very well be the maker's goal, alright, but how well ANY maker can attain such performance consistently is very open to question!

However, S&L make excellent products-their workmanship appears to me to be as good as any mass-production outfit can attain!

I very much disagreee with the place they put their locking lugs, though. I think a bolt rifle should lock up at the FRONT of the bolt. However, if it is possible to build a bolt-action rifle with a rear lockup that is as strong and solid as a front-locking system, the S&L would have to be one....

As for 6mm caliber cartridges, there are two I really like: the 6mm Remington and the 6mm/.284......

Gerry, you know that "Joergen" who posts here either owns or plays a significant part at Schulz & Larsen?? (Sorry, he does not spell his name like that, but I don't have the right letters on my keyboard).

Not owning one of their rifles, I must say their attention to detail as expressed on their website looks promising. Target type trigger and cut barreled rifle seems well ahead of what you'd expect to get in other factory rifles - even counting in some of the more pricey European options such as Sauer or Heym.

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Originally posted by El Deguello:
I very much disagreee with the place they put their locking lugs, though. I think a bolt rifle should lock up at the FRONT of the bolt.

I'm a little bit surprised about this comment. I don't own a Schulz & Larsen rifle myself, and I don't know exactly which product El Deguello is referring to?? But the current S&L action seems very much to be a front locking action - as it can be seen from this page:

http://www.schultzlarsen.com/m97dl_details.htm

- mike

The older Shultz & Larsens had a rear locking bolt with no lugs on the front. I have my grandfather's S&L (Model 54? I think) in 7X61 Sharpe and Hart Magnum which is now pretty much obsolete but comparable to the 7mm Rem Mag. He bought it new sometime in the early 1960's. This rifle has been well used and, while I have not shot it much in recent years, accuracy was good when handloaded (about 1 1/2" at 100.) The action is very smooth and the wood stock well figured for shooting comfortably.

Don't know anything about the newer models though.

Maybe this will help clear up the bolt lug location question though.

Good shooting.

I just looked at their site and the bolt locks into the barrel, not rear locking. I didn't ever know they were still around.

the front locking editon is the M97 , i have a M65 in .358 that has the rear locking lugs, very smooth action, but the wood recolipad has to go for another one, it has abit to hard recoil with heavy .358 norma Magnum loads..

I could not find on the web site what rounds they build. but a .358 norma would be good !
...tj3006

With what little experience I have with the S & L rifles, I do know that the complaint with rear locking actions is they have a tendency for the bolt to flex down upon firing, into the magazine well. The S & L rifle had a rather large bolt that helped prevent that. The Colt/Sauer rifle didn't have that problem because they had a single stack detachable magazine and the lower portion of the receiver was so narrow, only wide enough to allow the passage of the cartridge, that the bolt was supported to a greater extent and didn't have room to flex.

The M97 S&L doesn't have a rear locking bolt it locks into the barrel, so give it up guys

I own and shoot a Shultz & Larsen rifle in 7x61. I doubt any other calibre was ever loaded to a higher breech pressure that the original 7x61. Although the locking lugs are on the rear of the bolt all comments about the bolt flexing down are Bull Shit in my opinion. Any comments that float around about the action flexing or the bolt flexing are likely refering to actions such as the Lee Enfield. They do flex and stretch cases. I have some 7x61 Norma brass that have close to 20 reloads on them and I haven't lost any cases to stretching or cases separation. The rear locking S&L actions were a massive tubular action with a smallish opening on the side to eject the fired or unfired cartridge. This opening was made just large enough to pass the cartridge. You could not load the magazine from the top. You drop one round in the chamber and then fill the magazine from the floorplate. The magazine opening was the other opening in the action. The round bolt with the 4 locking lugs on the rear completely filled the inside of the receiver. There was no room for anything to flex. This action was choosen by Phil Sharpe for his 7x61 cartridge because of its strength. Some of the first 378 Weatherbys were built on this action prior to Roy Weatherby designing his MK V action. The original models were only chambered in the 7x61. Subsequent models soon had the 358 Norma mag and the 308 Norma Mag. Many of the Wby calibres were availible also including some of the first 378 Wby.

Hi Snowman

How does your S&L barrel shoot?

Gerry My rifle has a 1-12in twist and it shoots just fine .It handles the 140 to 154 gr bullets best.I've started using the 139 gr Hornady Interbond and it is giving me 3 shot groups around an inch at 200 yds.Makes quite an effective long range deer rifle.