I am having a rifle built on a short Rem 700.in a 25-284 win. My gunsmith called and asked me if I wanted the floor plate or the detachable mag box.
I do not have any other clip fed guns. I like to keep things consistant but the detachable mag box might be handy for carrying around on my snowmachine.
I should have asked the gunsmith if there is any difference in length of the magazines.

What do you think on this?

Daryl

I have a Browning A-bolt it's a detachable floor plate and mag system, best of both worlds

I've heard, and seen, lots of stories about the Remington detactable box magazine rifles not being as reliable as they should be. The tactical guys want nothing to do with them. There should be lots of those actions around, for that reason.
I have a .25-284 on a Remington 600 action. They sometimes require some very careful modification to the feed rails because the case is much fatter than the standard .308 class cases. Mine didn't. All of your extra magazines would have to be carefully tested to make sure they would work right.
In fact, I know a few gunsmiths that advise against bolt action rifles based on this case for that reason. Sometimes they are touchy about feeding.
No way would I consider a detachable box magazine for a .284 based anything. E

I'm with Kromer, I have a Browning that I've
had for over 12 years and the detachable clip
has never given me any problems.

I like them for the fact that when you unload
you don't have loose shells rolling every where,
you have your floor plate and your clip in
one package.

hunter966

I've had several 700 DBM's(270 and 300Wby),I had no feed/function woes with mine. But it added weight and I never felt it to be a decided advantage,in any regard. The DBM is of the same length as the ADL and BDL's mag boxes.

As far as the 25-284 goes,one of mine is on a 700BDL,the other a 600 in ADL configuration. The third is being built currently and it too,will be in ADL configuration.

My preference is the simplistic and robust nature of the ADL,as compared to the DBM and BDL both.

Chime in when you get her completed,you are gonna LOVE that thing............

I have found the remington detatchable magazine to be the simplest and quickest system to use.I have had brownings and found them slower and more complicated to use.In other words they offer the disadvantages of both the floorplate and detatchable mag.

I'm a sucker for the nice smooth lines and classic style of a floor plate gun,I managed to get the rounds out of a box,and into the gun,I can manage to get the unused ones back into the box I got them out of.Hope you enjoy your new rifle,Clay.

My personal preference for a hunting or tactical rifle and I own and use both, is a detachable box. For a classic rifle, I want a floor plate. As far as the Remington DB having feeding issues. I sure haven't found that to be the case. On of my 700 SA's has been rebarreled and rechambered to 300 WSM. I use an H.S. Percision trigger guard and DB opened up to feed the larger diameter case it works fine. I have run 600+ rounds through the H.S. DB with no problems. And no problems what so ever with the 308's and the 223. JMHO.

Shoot Safe, Shoot Straight.......RiverRat

I prefer the floor plate

I like a blind magazine because there is no easy way to loose your load.

I've had floor plates pop open at the wrong time and when I get the plate fixed so it won't pop open I have a hard time getting it to open when I want it to, this includes Rems and Rugers, except Mausers, I don't have any Wins and I haven't tried the Browning system. I have most of my weapons floor plates set so I have to get to the very end of the release before it will release so I just unload through the top, anyhow.

I've had clip mags not go in right and drop out when you rack the bolt and other times hook something - me, a bush, branch etc., and fall out. Murphy can screw with a person at any time. But..

I haven't had any of those problems with a blind mag and if you can't unload a weapon with a blind mag safely, you need to practice doing it with dummy's or leave the shootin' irons alone.

Take your pick and practice the drill so you can load and unload in your sleep, half awake, totally drunk or being caught up the wrong peach tree and you'll be OK.

on the A-Bolt it's rather nice.
swing the plate open then the mag is pressed to the plate and becomes one with it. then in one motion you close the plate and the mag is ready operate the bolt and your ready to fire.

for hunting this is great because it keeps the dirt out of the action when the mag is not it.

I had a similar quandry a few years ago. After working w/a detachable magazine in a bolt gun, I decided this system ain't for me. I takes three hands to reload a magazine that has to be pulled to load, when I can top off a fixed mag real quick. I have to admit ignorance with the systems you are discussing, but for my money and pain in the ass factor, if you can't load the mag w/o removing it, I don't want it.(again, this is bolt guns only) Just my opinion.

Hopsing

Hopsing-The simple solution is to carry a spare loaded magazine.With the remington detatchable magazine I would be willing to bet that I can change the empty magazine out for a full one quicker than you can reload a non removable magazine on your hunting rifle.The only exception would be military rifles using stripper clips but then they are not hunting rifles although some may be used as such.

I have one Mod.700 with a detachable magazine in it and have never had a problem with it but I still prefer a floorplate, I guess its more of a classic thing with me. Just my 2cents

Floor plate.

bummer yukoner. looks like they are split. one thing to consider is once you go floorplate you cant go back. the rails get modified to accept the dbm. at least thats what my smith told me and the recievers for the dbm guns have no rails. something to consider if you decide you dont like it. if you are hunting with it then i vote adl. it is foolproof and weather proof. no moving parts save for a spring and follower. if someone needs more than 5 shots at an animal they need more practice or they are about to die.
you're still left with an empty mag.
woofer

Woofer-While factory 700's with detatchable mags do not have feed rails you can convert a bdl to the detatchable magazine and still leave the feed rails intact.I have done this to one of my own rifles and it feeds great.I purchased a mcmillan stock inletted for the factory detatchable mag and bought the factory detatchable mag and bottom metal.I had the action pillar bedded to the new stock being very careful to set the pillars so the magazine snapped in properly and was snug against the rails.The result is great feeding and no magazine rattle and if I choose I can still convert back to the floorplate.

thanks stubblejumper. i thought i read here aomewhere that this was possible but i wasn't sure. i guess you could spacer a factory stock to get the fit you described. that sounds like a good idea. i will try it.
doug

Yukoner,

My 25-284 finally arrived.

700 short S/S action,#1 contour Douglas 1-10" twist S/S AG barrel,22" long and wearing a recessed crown. Action trued up,lapped and squared.

McMillan Remington Mountain Rifle patterned stock in Woodland camo scheme. Decelerator pad,S/S studs and I specified light fill to help keep weight down.

On top is a Leupold 6x42mm matte with regular Duplex and sitting in the new Talley lightweight alloy base/rings.

A nice looking and practical rifle. I expect good things from it.............

With a floorplate its hard to drive a hundred miles to find you've left your clip laying on the kitchen table.

beemanbeme-If you are forgetfull enough to forget a magazine you will probably forget your ammo or possibly even your gun.

Hey, Stubblejumper, you playing silly buggers or what? Maybe the snow is too deep and the cabin is making you sweaty. It's OK, spring is just around the corner. Your arguments are a bit thin, don't you think.

The picks are a bit limited. Detachable magazine or not, floor plate or not. Each has it's problems and solutions. If you can't deal with the problems you better leave the shootin' irons alone and go play cards, it's safer for everyone including....

Big Stick,

SWEEET! Perfect, it has accurate writen all over it.
I went with a 24" barrel. It will be finished soon. I will get a picture posted of it when I get it.
I was thinking of hunting everything this fall with it including moose and bear. For the sake of B.S.

Daryl

Makatak-Is your paranoia about losing your mag or having your floorplate pop open getting the best of you?You might want to consider some therapy.