Incidentally, I now use Fed 210s and 210Ms for most of my other reloading requiring large rifle primers. The only place that I use a mag primer is in my .416 Rigby.

Hope this helps.
The Bearman

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Originally posted by KING:
I reload for a .223 and usually use Ball Powder H335 and know to use Mag primers. I would like any imput on using Bench Rest primers instead. Any help would be appreciated. I have also started using Varget, seems ok! and accurate. Primers are CCI brand. Any info would be appreciated.

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there's a fine line between hobby and mental illnes

I've loaded most of the magnum rifle cartridges on down to the .22 Hornet and NEVER use Magnum primers unless someone gave me some. For my money they are pure BS. Oh and this includes shooting up GOBS of the Ball Powders...even the big stuff like H-870! Piss on magnum primers.

I haven't found any advantage to magnum primers in 35 years of reloading, 32 of that owning a chronograph. Even with cases as large as the 8mm Remington Magnum and .340 Weatherby, and even using ball powders as slow as WC 872 (originally manufactured for 20mm cannon), standard force primers work as well, or better.

I've never shot or hunted in sub-zero weather, and some people will swear that you have to have magnum primers when it gets really cold, but they offer no data to back up that claim.

If a person feels more comfortable with magnum primers and wishes to use them, well that's fine with me. But I regard the label as a marketing ploy which allows the manufacturer to charge a bit more (and more importantly, forces the retailer to stock more of the manufacturer's product).

Don't get me started on "benchrest" primers!

[This message has been edited by Stonecreek (edited 05-20-2002).]

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Originally posted by JoeM:
While we are on the topic of primers I have a question for those that might have tried it.
Has anybody ever tried a very small charge of Red Dot ahead of the main charge?

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I actually tried this once Joe in a wildcat .30caliber with 1.5 inch case. I was trying to see if I could make the thing use slow machinegun powder by kicking it off with .5 grain of Bullseye.

I set up my chronograph and fired half a dozen rounds of this ammo before I finally chickened out. Velocity and pressure were all over the place! It was an idea whose time had not come and never will as far as I'm concerned.

If you just gotta try something like this, use someone else's gun and fire it with a lanyard.

Now I suspect someone will come back and tell me how they've been shooting duplex and even triplex loads for years with wonderful results. And I'm happy as a pig in fresh slop for them.
But I'll never try it again! The old expression, "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread," fits this situation to the T.

In summation: DON'T