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Does the remington Model 7 have the same action as a M700? Does anyone have any experience with the model 7 centerfire rifle? I know the 770's are junk but the Model 7 looks like a nice compact rifle. | ||
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They're about 1/2 inch shorter than the 700 short action. Basically the replacement for the 600 action. As good as the 700 in terms of function and quality. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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I've had several Model 7 rifles from the Remington Custom Shop....the KS (Kevlar Stock) and the MS (Mannlicher with laminated stock). They're great little rifles...accurate and compact. Get the Talley bases and rings for it. The 1-piece base takes away from the lines of the rifle. | |||
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ive got a stainles 308 and its a great gun. Very accurate light and handy. It usually comes along on all my hunting trips for bad weather days. | |||
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Thanks, It's one of the rifles i'm looking at that is chambered for all the youth cartridges i'm looking at. Looks like a nice rifle, hopefully i can get my hands on one to see how they fit my daughter. | |||
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I hunt with one in 7mm-08 and its a dandy looker (in wood), an accurate, easy too carry and quick handling gun. I like it better than the Ruger compact, but the Ruger also looks like a handy gun. Be warned, although mine has been functioning 100% my buddy had his M7 discharge when he unset the safety. He never messed with any adjustments. He returned the gun to Remington for repair and the problem returned. For a youth (or anyone) I think this is something to be aware of and find out if the trigger design has been improved. Or at least avoid some of the older used guns. I did read someplace they changed the gun to at least allow unloading in safe. The fix we don't need it a heavy trigger. It was a pretty special gun (IMHO) when first introduced. I did have too machine the rear base somehow (forget what) to mount a scope. I guess that situation has changed too. Theat might be another concern with older M7's. In the early days of the M7, a Kevlar stock was available right off the shelf. Unfortunately, later it became a hi dollar custom shop only option. In addition to (your words)youth ctgs they also offer a youth stock, that could be restocked later. I'd consider the 260 as a long term keeper. | |||
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Hmm, same issues as M700? | |||
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I own & shoot frequently a Model 7 in 308 win. It has a glass stoch & is all stainless. It has been glass bedded &U has had trigger work and shoots first two shots sub MOA,, but then opens up just a LITTLE if shooting more before the thin barrel heats up. My favorite rifle for carrying. Light, accurate, weatherproof. Cant go wrong with one if you set it up right. Shoots well to 300 yards as well. | |||
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I had a Remington model7 in 6MM REM for awhile. It was a neat little rifle. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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I'm liking the looks of the M70 featherweight compact. I havn't heard anything bad so far. I've found a place that has one in stock, I'm gonna have her shoulder that one and see how it fits. | |||
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I dislike the short length of the rear receiver bridge on the Remington Model 7. It limits the scope base attachment options. I don't like any scope base the over hangs into the breach area, or one piece mounts that span across the breach area. It's tight enough under a scope with out cluttering up that space with a one piece mount or bases that partly block access to the ends of the breach area. | |||
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I am not familar with that Compact Winchester, but I do prefer the Winchester design of the big three. I see with 20" barrels both M7 & M70 weight 6.5 pounds. I'd try Winchester first if 20" barrel was desired. And it looks real nice in the online catalog. The Rem M7 is also offered with an 18" barrel and that is what I have. The catalog shows that at 6.15 pounds, both lighter and shorter. I have the old style wood stock that looks more like the current Winchester. The latest wood stock M7 is different, not as cute (IMHO). The Ruger Compact offers a 16.5 inch barrel. That that compact does not look as nice as either Winchester or the older Remington for me. But the weight is 5.75 to 6.0 pounds! And 12.5 LOP is shortest of the three. I would give these a look for a youth even if not my cup-o-tea. Its just too small for me. | |||
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I have one Model 7 in 223. It's a CDL model, and shoots 3 shots into a 3/8" groups at 100 yards. Sure is a very user friendly, light weight, perfect banlanced rifle. I can see why there's a big following of guys buying Model 7's. I could get hooked on them too. The only things I did to the rifle was free float barrel, and installed a Rifle Basix trigger. | |||
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I had one of the orginal model 7's with rifle sights and 18 inch (or there about) barrel. It was a 7mm-08, and I liked the feel of the stock, and it had a timmy trigger (I bought it at a pawn shop). A friend of mine who was a 7x57 fan just had to have it. This went on for several years until he made me an offer I couldn't refuse (Cash money). This was about 15 years ago. This year he shot the largest mule deer he has seen with that rifle. It has been his favorite all these years. I missed it and replaced it with a model 70 compact within a month. The model 70 feeding was better, and I only shot Remington green box 140 core lock's in it. This year another friend talked me out of it (Cash money ++) for his grandson. Grandson shot his first deer with it and has announce that this is the rifle he will keep all his life. Extending the length of pull with a recoil pad when he grows some more. Winchester has re-introduced the compact recently and that what I would buy if I had not bought a new winchester stainless featherweight in 30-06. When I get a scope on it and get to the range I will file a report on it. I like the trigger. | |||
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do the model 7's have the same front/rear bolt lock up as the 700? I read somewhere they only locked up on the front lug on the model 7? I find that hard to believe seeing they make the 7 in 300wsm. | |||
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Talley Light Weights---- Talley makes two piece base with integral rings that works on the newer M7's with two D/T rear receiver ring holes.. You can have a second hole D/T for the older M7's as I did for one of mine.. Remington has just come out with a similar base/ring set up.. | |||
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I second the Talley's. They fit the Model 7 very well and hold the scope securely. This is a 250 Savage with a Leupold 2-7x33  | |||
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I have shot over a dozen Model 7's over the years. I have shot them in 223, 243, 6mm, 7mm/08, several in 308, and a 350 Rem Mag. ALL of them were very accurate. Most all were fired to 300 yards on paper and several of the 308's were shot at 600 yards on paper and as far as 800 yards on steel. I have found them to be very good rifles. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Tony, but they only have one barrel! | |||
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I have one in 7mm SAUM stainless/synthetic and i love it. Also used the Talley light-weights and they are perfect on such a small action. Rifle is very accurate with 150gr factory Remington ammo, i handload 140gr Hornady's and surprisingly the 22inch barrel is not that thin, i guess because its a magnum.....  | |||
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700 has no rear lockup, only the front lugs. The front half and hence the lock up for the 700 and 7 are identical as are the front ring diameter and barrel shank threads. They are identical in strength and the short magnums are as safe in an M7 as the long magnums in a 700. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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To pick a nit, that's not exactly true. The root of the bolt handle drops into a cut out that would hamper it's rearward movement. Whether or not you'd want to call that a lock up, I don't know. As far as an actual lug that drops into a receiving slot, no there's not. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Yeah, I thought about that before I repied but since there's no contact, it really isn't involved in the lockup. If it did contact, repeated firings would probably shear the braized joint eventually. Also, since its braised onto the bolt body, I don't think of it as particularly strong for a third lug failsafe, either. But the Remington lockup is so strong its a moot point. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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That's an interesting thing to "know" without knowing if a Mod. 7 is junk too. ?? | |||
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True, but they are good little hunting guns. Jim C, I do not care for the 7h70's either, but the Mod 7's are good guns. I like the 18" and 20" guns best. I would still be using Mod 7's IF I had not switched to Blaser R 93's. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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They aren't my cup of tea either but that's not a criteria to say they are "junk", or is it? | |||
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You are correct and that probably wasn't an adequate choice of wording, as there are far more (JUNK) rifles that i can think of. But they are a lesser rifle than the 722, 700, or 7 IMO. | |||
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Sorry for my typo on the 770... But they are "junk".... DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Compare those and most other common rifles to a Kimber, Sako, Cooper, etc, and they too will be "junk" I suppose? Stating a personal taste is one thing, snobbish elitism is an wholly different thing. | |||
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I was lucky enough to have bought one of the original Model 7's when they foirst came out. I think I bought it somewhere between '88-90. It has the matte finins 18" barrel with the kevlar stock. It weighs around 5 pounds and is a 7-08. I've shot several deer and a couple of elk with it. Had several gunshops try and steer me away from it when I bought it because they all were new to the pecil thin barrels and said they wouldn't group were crap. Well, I soon had it shooting 0.6" groups with handloads so I knew it was a keeper. When it came time to buy my son his first big game rifle....It was a Model 7. | |||
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I've never been accused of that before but if thats the case for stating my personal opinion, then there sure are alot of SNOBBISH ELITISTS here on AR. I guess some people aren't happy unless they are arguing about somthing. | |||
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Sooo...in your opinion, calling a mechanically sound rifle a lot of young guys can afford and enjoy hunting with - successully - "junk" isn't argumentative, but my suggesting those who feel that way may be elitest snobs is? That's an interesting intellectual differentation...perhaps the friends who never pointed out the snobbishness are just being kind? | |||
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I had 4, but now only 3 Model 7s with the factory Brown Precision Kevler laminated stocks. They are semi customs now. I built one into a 300SAUM for my oldest son, a 6X47Lapua for my 9 yr./ old Grandson, and a 6.5X47Lapua for myself. I built the other one for my now 17yr old Grandson in 30BR. I guess that means I had 5 and now 4 in the family. The 6X47Lapua has a Shilen trigger and the others have Jewels. They are all great hunting rifles. Oh, by the way the one that got away was a 7-08Improved. Butch | |||
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Maybe you missed the part where i said that may have not been the best choice of wording and where i'm from we take that as somewhat of an appology. What more do you need? How about not taking someones personal opinion and turning it into more than it is. That's the great thing about America, I'm allowd to have one, and we agree to disagree. | |||
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