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My 250-3000 Mauser '98 shoots the lights out with 100 BT's over Varget. However that weight BT doesn't expand reliably or wide enough for me at impact velocities. It doesn't shoot any other projectile weight as well with Varget. Has anyone had some good results with powders faster than Varget in the 250-3000 with 87 projectiles. Thx in advance. | ||
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 My Mod. 200 Stevens bolt action 250-3000 has a some what long throated barrel and a reasonably fast twist. The 120 grain Speer is pushed with 38grains of IMR 4831 to a velocity of 2790 FPS. with no high pressure indications. The OAL= 2.705". and at 200 yds. it groups at 2".  Loading manuals show that this load should be slower than what I got. It is what was measured , however, when shot over my 35 Oehler.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Thank you for that reply on HEAVY bullets over SLOW powders. | |||
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RL 15 is my choice for a 250/3000 and two 250AI. Because, as you say, 100gr Ballistic Tips don't give good expansion at marginal speeds I have chosen 100gr Partitions for my 250/3000. In the past three years I have taken four whitetails all of which were DRT. All four were under 200yds. IF YOU'RE GONNA GET OLD,YOU BETTER BE TOUGH!! GETTIN' OLD AIN'T FOR SISSIES!! | |||
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Why do you desire a faster powder? A slower powder will give higher velocity at LOWER PRESSURE. According to my sources, H414, 760 and H4350 will yield velocities above 2700fps at the muzzle, ample to expand a 100gr Ballistic Tip. It also states that the same powders produce the highest velocities with 87gr bullets. Also, most 87gr bullets are really varmint/light game bullets and not suited for deer, there are exceptions, like Speer 87gr SP Hot Cor. I have a 257AI, before re-barreling, it would get 2850fps with 100gr BT's, they expanded reliably, far better than they do out of either my 257AI or 25-06. Hope this helps. Cheers. | |||
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Hello 416RigbyHunter. Thank you for the reply. I have tried 2208 under the following weight projectiles. 75, 80, 85, 87, 90 and 100. I have tried 3 different brands of 100 and only the 100 Nosler BT will consistantly shoot under 1". (My goal) Muzzle velocity is around 2,775 fps. Here is a small boar I shot in western Qld and the 100 BT pencilled through above the left shoulder pad and out the right side of the neck behind the jaw line. Yes it worked but on lighter aussie feral game it does the same thing.  Range was < 100 paces which is really close out there and impact velocities are usually a lot less. Hence my desire for an 85/87 thin jacketed projectile. I have tried 2209 under the Hornady 117 RNSP but even a starting load of 36 grains is heavily compressed despite my chamber having an extra .035" length in the throat for seating out longer projjies. If anyone has had success with 2206H, Benchmark or similar powders under 85's I'd like to hear from them before I burn up any more barrel time. | |||
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Your on my ignore list Atkinson. Give up. | |||
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When you say pencil through, this is a common characteristic of Nosler bullets, not just the BT either, Accubonds do the same. I have used countless boxes of 25 cal Nosler bullets, mostly 100gr BT's, but I switched to 110gr Accubonds when they first became available in Australia, although this is with my 25-06. The AI still sees use spotlighting with 100gr BT's or 100gr Speer Hot Cors, these are a very good bullet for our game species and pests. Kangaroos don't like them much. Terminal performance is about the same, except Hot Cors don't shed their cores like BT's do. I would give them a go on pigs, they work quite well, have shot several Vic high country boars with them, all were DRT. As to powder, 760 or 2209 would be my choice, compression is not a problem, or dangerous. I suggest you load some compressed rounds, measure the OAL, leave 'em sit a week or 2 and re-check the OAL, if nothing's changed, go ahead and load up a 100. Cheers.  | |||
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I'm no help here, I just started loading for the 250S. I have RL17 at 40.5 with the 87gr. | |||
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Code4 Thanks, Im honored. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I don't hunt with my Ruger 77R .250 Savage but I find that Norma N201 is very accurate with modest loads using 87 grain Hornadys and 90 grain Sierra HPBT's. I believe Benchmark has a similar burning speed to N201. Might be worth a try. NRA Life Member DRSS-Claflin Chapter Mannlicher Collectors Assn KCCA IAA | |||
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My Bad 90gr. hp fb speer IMR4198 27gr. ww #34 " oal=2.643" mild clean, 2636 to 2690 fps., 75gr. FP ? IMR4198 29gr. " " " oal=2.360", clean mild, 2966 to 3056 fps., not bad 75gn. fp speer 4759 19gn. " pri.215 7/21/10 oal=2.335", 2225 to 2325 FPS., .350" grp. At 50yds. 75gr. FP speer 7625 11.2gr. " pri34 3/12/08 oal=2.365",mild, sooty, 3 shot 3/4" group @ 50 yds. 90gr. hp game king 7625 11.2gr. " pri34 3/12/08 oal=2.610"mild, sooty, 3 shot .300" group @ 50 yds., 12" drop at 200yds, barrel cool 100gr. psp spitz 7625 11.2gr. " pri34 3/12/08 oal=2.700" mild primer slightly flat, low recoil, just super. rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I always come back to IMR 3031 with 87gr. Speer bullets. The accuracy is outstanding and 33.8grs gets 3050fps out of my Savage 99 with 24" barrel. | |||
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Unfortunately, no IMR powder is available in Australia, we also struggle fetting Alliant powder on a consistent basis. Hodgdon is about the only powder available consistently, and evennthen, only tge stick powder made here in Australia. Cheers. | |||
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Can you get Hodgdon Benchmark or its Oz equivalent? It works well with 75-87gr. bullets. Using the Speer 87gr. Hot Cor and 32.0gr. Benchmark is a very accurate load @3000 fps in my 99. | |||
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Why is it that some people look at a burn rate chart and think a faster burn rate powder will make a bullet go faster. Almost without fail a slower burn rate powder will be the choice for more velocity irregardless of barrel length. A burn rate chart is interesting but not a good place to guess about loads. Kenny | |||
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