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30 April 2006, 03:38
safari
223 powder
I'm trying to find a powder than I can easily reach 3600fps and over. I am shooting a 40gr v-max and have tried IMR 4198, W748, and XMR 2015. I have gotten just under 3600 fps but only with slight compresion. Is 3600fps reachable? I have a 22" barrel on my rifle. Any suggestions would be a great help. Thanks
30 April 2006, 04:45
Jay Johnson
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Originally posted by safari:
I'm trying to find a powder than I can easily reach 3600fps and over. I am shooting a 40gr v-max and have tried IMR 4198, W748, and XMR 2015. I have gotten just under 3600 fps but only with slight compresion. Is 3600fps reachable? I have a 22" barrel on my rifle. Any suggestions would be a great help. Thanks


2015 should be close the 3600 fps your seeking. RL7 or N133 should get you very close to 3700 in a 24" barrel. All my .224 centerfires have 24" and longer barrels.
30 April 2006, 05:07
Mark Taylor
Interestingly enough, Re15 does quite well in my CZ varmint.


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30 April 2006, 06:56
smedley
You might look at Reloader 10. Couple of other post said had good results.RE10


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30 April 2006, 08:21
bartsche
27.5 gr. accurate 2520, LC 04cases, wsr, oal= 2.14" comes darn close.


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30 April 2006, 11:23
vapodog
here's some loads of interest....all 40 grain bullets
40 Nosler Ballistic Tip Hodgdon Varget 28.0 3,674
Remarks: compressed powder charge; CUP: 47,200
40 Nosler Ballistic Tip Hodgdon BL-C(2) 28.5 3,612
Remarks: CUP: 45,400
40 Nosler Ballistic Tip Hodgdon H-335 28.0 3,572
Remarks: CUP: 44,600
40 Nosler Ballistic Tip Hodgdon H-4895 27.5 3,573
Remarks: compressed powder charge; CUP: 44,500
40 Nosler Ballistic Tip Hodgdon Benchmark 27.3 3,666
Remarks: CUP: 51,000
40 Nosler Ballistic Tip Hodgdon H-322 25.5 3,574
Remarks: CUP: 48,000
40 Nosler Ballistic Tip Hodgdon H-4198 22.5 3,601
Remarks: CUP: 49,600

40 Hornady V-Max IMR IMR-4198 22.2 3,700
Remarks: maximum load

40 Hornady V-Max Vihtavuori VV-N130 23.8 3,600
40 Hornady V-Max Vihtavuori VV-N130 24.5 3,700
Remarks: maximum load

40 Hornady V-Max Accurate Arms AAC-2460 26.4 3,600
40 Hornady V-Max Accurate Arms AAC-2460 27.1 3,700
40 Hornady V-Max Accurate Arms AAC-2460 27.8 3,800
Remarks: maximum load

40 Hornady V-Max Hodgdon H-335 26.6 3,600
40 Hornady V-Max Hodgdon H-335 27.4 3,700
Remarks: maximum load

40 Speer Spire Point Vihtavuori VV-N120 24.0 3,640
Remarks: OAL: 2.075; psi: 52,200
40 Speer Spire Point Vihtavuori VV-N130 26.3 3,685
Remarks: OAL: 2.075; psi: 52,200
40 Speer Spire Point Vihtavuori VV-N133 26.8 3,615
Remarks: OAL: 2.075; psi: 47,900

These loads are all from 24" and 26" barrls but I don't think a lot of loss will happen to the 22" tube

Further it does suggest that AA2460 is the best velocity getter and don't be afraid to compress the load as long as pressure signs are not evident.


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30 April 2006, 19:15
bartsche
thumbVD! I really am impressed at the amount of work you have done on 40 gr. bullets.Do you have more of the same quality info on heavier bullets in the same cartridge? I for one would like to have it. beerroger


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30 April 2006, 19:25
vapodog
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Originally posted by bartsche:
thumbVD! I really am impressed at the amount of work you have done on 40 gr. bullets.Do you have more of the same quality info on heavier bullets in the same cartridge? I for one would like to have it. beerroger

What bullet weight are you interested in?


and BTW all I'm doing is copy pasteing from other sources.....I can't take credit for this research at all.....sorry if I gave the impression that it's all my data.....I don't have the pressure equipment to be able to do this.


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01 May 2006, 22:50
seafire/B17G
Benchmark 28.4 grains...

Reloader 7... 25 to 26 grains...

XMR 2230.... BlC 2... will do it, but I don't shoot those powders much...

Benchmark or RL 7 are my two.. 'to go to powders" with a 40 grainer instantly...

they give me the velocity and the tack driving accuracy ya need, so why mess around...

as always, work up tho...

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03 May 2006, 21:52
prof242
Most of Vapodog's loads are good safe ones from my testing, but I haven't tried all the powders. One thing though, I've been able to go above these loads with BL-C2, 748, AA2230, and AA2200. Getting 3600fps with the .223 and 40gr bullets hasn't been very difficult.
On another thought, some of my best accuracy was just under maximum.


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03 May 2006, 22:49
sccm1
Out of several manuals Nosler goes the highest with the benchmark powder.
I used the Nosler Manual to work up my .223 load with 40gr Nosler bullet, worked out great using the benchmark powder @ 27.8gr although never exceed in manual was 28gr but in Hot weather over 75 degrees 28gr had to much pressure in my gun, case heads would be scarred bad and primers were cratered badly but even at 27.8gr I am between 3725fps - 3760fps.
16 May 2006, 10:17
Buzz
I use Benchmark in my rifle.
17 May 2006, 19:21
tnekkcc
I did some high velocity experiments 3 weeks ago with a 26" barrel .223:

45 gr Rem hollow point, 17 gr Blue Dot, 3514 - 3580 fps, long brass life

33 gr Vmax 18 gr Blue Dot 4,097 - 4,127 fps, wrecks brass with the first shot

33 gr Vmax 23 gr, 24 gr, 25 gr H110, chrono can not read, long brass life

33 gr Vmax, 26 gr H110, chrono can not read, wrecks brass

55 gr Vmax, 28.6 gr H335, 3699 fps, short brass life

55 gr Vmax, 21.5 gr W296, 3580 fps, short brass life, some brass ripped off rim

55 gr Vmax, 28 gr W748, 3534 fps, long brass life

33 gr Vmax, 15 gr Blue Dot, 3550 fps, long brass life, great load, I loaded up 2,000 rounds.
25 June 2006, 08:41
acpchuck45
Try Ramshot X-Terminator for a powder. Have reached 3800+ FPS with 40 gr Nosler BT's out of my 26" Ruger. Does 3350 easy with 50 gr TNT or SX bullets. And all with some of the best accuracy of any powder I have used. Meters great for my high volume PD loads and cost is much better than most other powders.
03 July 2006, 08:00
390ish
I can't do any better on sub-50 grain loads than the Winchester White Box 45 grainers from walmart. they are great and rated for 3600 fps if i remember correctly. I really like benchmark and 50 grain hdy spsx pills.
03 July 2006, 18:26
mho
RL7 for speed with 40 grainers! Also try H335 - I have loads up to 27.5 grs and get good accuracy in quite a few rifles with this load.
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