Hi, i'm new here and just recently shot a nice buck quartering to me in the shoulder at 40 yards. Needless to say the 100gr remingon core-lokt didn't make it through that shoulder. I want to load some bullets that I don't have to worry about penetration problems or blowups. Would the 110gr accubond or the 100gr barnes TSX be better in that regards? Sorry for the long post, thanks for the advice.

What caliber are you using? Ranges? These could help in recommendations. In .243, I've been using the 85gr Nosler Partition or the 85gr TSX bullet.
In .25 caliber, I've been using the 100gr bullets by the same mfgs.

TSX is THE premium bullet as far as I am concerned.

The accubond will do the job also. But the TSX is superior IMO.

I'm sorry guys, the caliber is a 25-06.

They'll both do the job. The ideal thing to do would be to try them both and see which one your particular rifle "likes" best.

PS the 115 or 120gr partitions would do the job, too!

I haven't been able to get the 110 Accubond shooting well enough to try it on game, I've got 10 more loaded with minor tweaks. We'll see.....

I will be trying the 100 TSX. My 30-06 likes the 168 TSX. Hoping the 25-06 will do well with them also.

My 25-06 really likes the now discontinued 85 X flat base. Barnes might still have some for sale on their website.
Edit...Yes they do. $14.50 a box and free shipping if you spend at least $50.

Two mates and I all have 25-06's all with the same brand of custom barrel.

The 100TSX has shot some fantastic groups out of these rifles .3-.5 for 3 shots with wafer thin barrels.

The TSX is more flexible when it comes to shot presentation, as well.

I have tried the 110gr Accu Bond in the 25-06, I found the accuracy was not there. Never used it on game. I think the Bi-metal Accubond is unbalanced.

The TSX 100gr in the 25-06 will shoot 3/4" three shot groups at 300 yards and makes spectacular kills on deer.

Wrongside,I got this load from another poster think he was shooting a remington,I shot the same load in my tikka with good results,even went up one more grain and it shot the same so you may want to try the load below with the accura bond's.

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I'm sorry guys, the caliber is a 25-06.

After this information. I would once again suggest the TSX.

You will not be disappointed.

I have had good luck with the 100 gr TSX out of my Roberts. But If you really want penitration I would recomend a 115 grain TSX , or either a 115 or 120 grain Partition.
I have 2 Roberts and 1 25,06. the 110 grain acubond only shooots well in one of the rifles...tj3006

owensby,

Thanks for the info, that does look like a good load. Although, Hodgon and IMR seem to be the only powders easily available in my area.

I saw a guy on another site shooting the 115 TSX over Retumbo with impressive velocity and accuracy............... claims. I might give that a try also. Still haven't tried the 100 Grn. TSX yet.............

Try the 100grain TSX with H4831, wonderful combo.

I've never used Barnes bullets so i can't comment on those but my experience with the Accubond has been somewhat different from what i'm reading here. I've found the accubond to be very accurate in both my 30.06 and 25.06. I've killed 6 deer in the past two years with the 110gr accubond and the 25.06. The closest shot was 50yds and the longest was 286yds with no bullet recovery. All shots have been pass throughs with a pencil size hole going in and a nickel size hole coming out with a big wound channel. With the exception of one all the deer fell in the scope when i squeezed the trigger and the one that did run only went about 20yds and fell within sight. Here's the load and a group that i shot with my Rem 700 Classic 25.06.

Rem brass
Fed 210
RL22/53.5gr
COL/3.244

Q-tip, Did you chrony that load?

bill,
I've never chronographed this load so i have no ideal what the fps is. It shoots so accurate that i've never really been concerned with how fast it was traveling. I'll try and dig out the chrony and give it a velocity check and let you know. I hardly ever chronograph a load these days i mainly just try to squeeze every little bit of accuracy i can get out of a load and go with it regardless of how fast it shoots. Mike

Mike,
I'm sure you're getting all the velocity you need. I was just curious, as I just tested some loads with RL22 and the 117gr Hdy BTSP. I was getting around 3140 with 56gr. Accuracy was better at 55.5gr @ around 3100fps. I'm no "speed junky". I'll take the smaller groups anyday.

Hey Mike,Got to try your load out monday on a 8pt buck.100 yds just behind the shoulder,got the same as you bullet size hole going in and about nickle size out,deer ran 15 yds piled up.
This is the first deer I have taken with the accura-bond,but have found they are very accurate in every caliber I have tried them in.
Out of my tikka I got 3064 fps with 53.5 grs of R-22 and 3090 with 54.5 grs.At 100 yds the 54.5 grs shot just as good as the 53.5 grs but at 300 yds the 53.5 grs the groups were just a tad tighter is the reason I went with the 53.5 grs.
I think the tikka barrel is 22 in long not sure,would have to recheck.

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Hey Mike,Got to try your load out monday on a 8pt buck.100 yds just behind the shoulder,got the same as you bullet size hole going in and about nickle size out,deer ran 15 yds piled up.
This is the first deer I have taken with the accura-bond,but have found they are very accurate in every caliber I have tried them in.
Out of my tikka I got 3064 fps with 53.5 grs of R-22 and 3090 with 54.5 grs.At 100 yds the 54.5 grs shot just as good as the 53.5 grs but at 300 yds the 53.5 grs the groups were just a tad tighter is the reason I went with the 53.5 grs.
I think the tikka barrel is 22 in long not sure,would have to recheck.

owensby,
Good job and congrats on your buck! Glad to hear it worked out for ya and thanks for posting your speeds. Like i said i haven't chronographed this load yet but i plan too just out of curiosity. I'm shooting from a 24" tube and i was guessing i would be somewhere around 3100fps but thats just a guess and i know the only way to really know is to shoot it through the chrony which i'll do as soon as i can find the time. I too have found the accubond to be accurate in every rifle i've loaded them for and their performance on game has been excellent for me at all ranges . Needless to say they have become my bullet of choice in all my hunting rifles. Mike

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Mike,
I'm sure you're getting all the velocity you need. I was just curious, as I just tested some loads with RL22 and the 117gr Hdy BTSP. I was getting around 3140 with 56gr. Accuracy was better at 55.5gr @ around 3100fps. I'm no "speed junky". I'll take the smaller groups anyday.

bill,
I'm no speed junky either but i'd be lying if i didn't say i sure use to be. I would try and push everything to the limit no matter what it was and when it came to reloading i would even sacrifice a little accuracy to get the velocities i wanted. Man have things changed. It seems now the older i get the slower everything gets .
Concerning the Hornady 117gr BTSP. I've been working with a friend with that bullet for a couple weeks now in his 257 roberts and so far we haven't found a load that shoots as accurate as he wants but we haven't tried RL22 with that bullet. We're still very early in load developement and have only tried a couple different combinations. I know it will shoot because i shot it before in my 25.06 and it shot very well for me.
Couple questions, would you mind sharing your load data and what kind of accuracy are you getting? Also are you seating the bullet on the cannelure or are you loading closer to the lands? Any help would be appreciated. Much Thanks! Mike

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Originally posted by Qtip:

Couple questions, would you mind sharing your load data and what kind of accuracy are you getting? Also are you seating the bullet on the cannelure or are you loading closer to the lands? Any help would be appreciated. Much Thanks! Mike

Hey Mike,
Like you, I'm in the early stages with this caliber. I plan on getting more serious with it after hunting season. I'm going to do a little more testing this weekend and I'll post the results. I'm seating the Hdy about .020 off of the lands. This is where I need to do some more experimenting. I was getting 1" groups with the 55.5gr load, so I thought I'd play with the seating to see if it will tighten up. RL-19 proved accurate but at a serious speed deficit. I was getting < 3/4" groups but at 2800-2900fps.

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Hey Mike,
Like you, I'm in the early stages with this caliber. I plan on getting more serious with it after hunting season. I'm going to do a little more testing this weekend and I'll post the results. I'm seating the Hdy about .020 off of the lands. This is where I need to do some more experimenting. I was getting 1" groups with the 55.5gr load, so I thought I'd play with the seating to see if it will tighten up. RL-19 proved accurate but at a serious speed deficit. I was getting < 3/4" groups but at 2800-2900fps.

Thanks for the heads up bill! I also have some RL19 on hand that i can try but i want to give the RL22 a go first and see what happens. So far we've tried IMR4831 and 4350 and neither one have produced very good groups. I've been seating the bullet on the cannelure and going with the suggested OAL in the Hornady manual. I may move it out closer to the lands just to see what happens before moving to another powder. Again thanks! Mike