I JUST ORDERED A ABOLT IN 243 WSSM.IWAS WONDERING IF ANY BODAY COULD GIVE ME ANY GOOD LOADS FOR DEER AND VARMENTS.AND ANY DO AN DONTS WITH THIS ROUND.AND IF ANYBODAY HAS ONE HOW THEY LIKE IT THANKS

A friend said that his Walmart had a closeout at $6 a box. You might want to buy some of those.

Shot one in for a guy the other day. Shoot 3 shots(Browning A-Bolt SS hunter) don't even think about touching the barrel!!! They had to line them with "steellite" or some other material so they would last over 400 rounds!! Albeit the guys 100 grain factory Winchester Silverbox stuff did 3150 average over the chronograph for 10 rounds!!! That's cooking on the "top burner" for the 6mm stuff in factory chamberings! It's also cooking barrelmetal in factory stuff!!!
The 223 WSSM offers nothing over the 22-250 and the SWIFT except "nomenclature"...."I shoot a WSSM!!!" The 243WSSM offers nothing but "rapid barrel burnout!!!" And the 25WSSM only wishes it could be a "wart on the ass" of the 25-06REM"!!! Winchester and Remington both have tore themselves a new one by not offering the .257 or the .264 versions of the "shorts"(NOT THE SUPER SHORTS)to the public!! Have fun with the 243WSSM!!! Shilen, Kreiger, Douglas, Hart will be happy to supply you a new barrel!!! GHD

groundhog devastation,

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The 223 WSSM offers nothing over the 22-250 and the SWIFT except "nomenclature"...."I shoot a WSSM!!!"

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Right....EXCEPT for the FACT that the .223 WSSM is faster by almost 200 fps. over the .220 Swift. Has a stronger action due to it's shorter length. Is inherently more accurate due to it's design, powder packed into a short, compact column. I would also think that if you took the same rifle in say a .300 WSM and fire it three times the barrel would be about as hot. Why not go to the Browning web site at Experts Take On The WSSM's and see what the people in the know think about the new offerings from Winchester? By the way I have over 900 rounds through my .223 WSSM(M70 Coyote) and no sign of any undue throat erosion. Lawdog

Gary, Glad to hear you are pleased with the WSSM.223! I hope it goes on shooting great for 10,000 rounds! I just don't think there is much improvement that can be made on the 22 calibers over the 22-250 and the Swift. It's nice to have the "new kid on the block".....that is tongue in cheek! .....I'm shooting a .204in SavageVLP now! But will it do what we've been doing for years any better? Probably not! How dead is dead? As far as barrel hotness goes....the 243WSSM came about as close to the warmth of the STW's as anything I've messed with! An STW will warm up!!! Shoot the hell out of stuff a long way off but not the gun of choice in a dog town!!! For people like the most of us here, the WSSM's will work fine! We are already aware of the fact that they are SERIOUSLY overbore and we keep that fact in mind! However, ole Joe Blow Public will go to the local WallyWorld, buy him one and 2-3 boxes of bullets and proceed to melt the darn thing in about 15 minutes!! ('course he could do that with the 22-250 or the Swift also) And as far as going to the "Browning website" and looking at what's there......bout the same as going to the KERRY website and looking up info on the SwiftBoat fiasco.......who's paying the bills here? GHD

Funny, I have over 400 rounds through my 223WSSM (custom barrel), and I can't even measure any erosion yet....

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I agree that the barrel warms up, but nothing worse than a 243, or a 240WBY, which I also load for.

For the 243WSSM hunting load, I'd load the 85 gr Triple Shock first, over something in the 4350-4831 burn rate. Maybe try the new Ramshot Hunter. If that doesn't work, back to the olde standby I use for the 240 WBY: the 100 gr. Partition. HTH, Dutch.

Groundhog,
You' full of crap. Look at some real data . As with other folks that don't read you're dead wrong about a lot of stuff. About the much maligned 25 version of the WSSM's. In the latest HOdgdon manual, they are dead even. I just got some stuff mailed to me on the 25 WSSM. At SAAMI pressures, and yes the 25 WSSM's are loaded to much higher pressures than the 25-06, they are almost identical in terms of performance. Please provide your facts or be considered a"wart on somethings' ass". Look at the published data and prove me wrong! I don't seem to be the only one taking exception to the pictures you paint!!
GregH

Aint' mine so it ain't good. I get tired of that attitude. The 243 WSSM is a 6MM Rem in another case. Is the 6MM a barrel burner? Nobody has labeled it as such.

Winchester and Browning put thin barrels on the WSSM's, of course they are going to get hot. Those thin barreled, short action guns sure are nice to carry. If you are going to shoot groundhogs all day you won't buy a thin barreled gun. If you are hunting deer and you need more than three shots, go back to the range becuase you don't belong in the woods.

Aaron

GREG H AND AARON, Did I piss in your Poast Toasties or something? As far as shooting the 25WSSM....no I haven't yet! But can't wait to try one now so I can post the data that I GET FROM SHOOTING , NOT READING!!! I probably read more about this stuff than both of you put together!! It's just that I know what to cull and what to "save to memory"!!!
Yes Aaron if you need three shots to kill a damn deer(overgrown varmint!!!!!) you definitely need practice!!! They don't even get to be fun until about 400 yards or so.....and that's with the "thin barrelled" stuff! Maybe I should not have posted here as I am obviously "under enlightened" on the finer points of reloading and shooting! EXCUSE ME!!! Y'all sleep tight! GHD

I have a question about ths WSSM 243.I'm not trying to get involved in any arguements here , but would the 6mmrem or the 243 win loaded to similar pressures as the 243 WSSM compare ballistically, or at least close the gap in performance? I know the cases wont handle the pressure, but some of the loads I've seen for the 243WSSM only seem 200- 250 fps faster for bullets in the 100gn range.
Like I said, only asking from the point of view of a 243 owner thats interested in the differences.

I had a 223 wssm and it would better top end loads in my 220 swift by about 25 fps. The god awful feeding issue is the reason i let that one go. Case capacity is abit more than the 220 swift and equal to a 243 case. Performance is another story. As i am finding out with my 22-6mmAI once you get over about 4050 fps you kind of hit the wall. I have to burn a ton more powder than my 220 swift to get about 120 fps more. Why bother? As far as the 243 wssm, It has the same capicty as a regular 243 plus some feeding issues, esp. in a hunting rifle. I ask you is it worth the hassle? Not in my opinion.