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Is it possible for a rifle to shoot better at 300 yds than it does at 100. I have a 6mm rem. built on an Mauser Kar 98 action and I usually shoots pretty much anything within a inch or less at 100 yds, but it has fired a couple of groups at 300yds lately that measured about 1/2".
It did this with 2 different bullets. One a 95 gr ballistic tip the other 85 gr. Serria boattail hollow point.
I must admit the 2 groups at 300 were shot by my nephew and 2 groups don't mean it wasn't an accident. I left the rifle with him Thanksgiving as he needed something a little more accurate than what he had. When he gets out of school for Christmas I am sure he will shoot it more and we will know more then.
My question is, is it possible for a bullet to stablize better at 300 yds than it does at 100yds. I am fairly sure the barrel has a 1 in 10 twist.
 
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Is it possible for a rifle to shoot better at 300 yds than it does at 100.

Generally speaking....NO....but stranger things have happened.....
Personally I'd write it off as a fluke.


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My thoughts on the subject are that some rifles may not be the 1/4MOA guns at 100 yards but they are JUST AS GOOD AT EXTENDED RANGES as at 100!! That would lead me to think that there is something to the "stabilization" of the bullet at the longer ranges!
I still shoot 100 yard groups when chronographing loads and sighting in rifles but the 100 yard groups are pretty much meaningless to me in practical semi-long range or long range varminting performance!! Show me a rifle that will do the 1/2 inch or 1" at 400 yards and if it shoots 1.5" at 100 yards.....no big deal!! I'll use the rimfires on the short stuff anyway!!
I have seen what you are describing several times in 30 years of messing with them!! It can happen!! GHD


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Just a little devil's advocate's input....

If you are getting older like me.... I have depth perception problems... however the further out the distance is, the less problems I have with it....

A lot of guys who can out shoot me at 100 yds, can't out shoot me at 200 and 300 yds at all...I blame or credit the depth perception being gone at longer distances....

For some of us guys getting older also, I tend to be able to hold a rifle steadier when looking at a target at 200 yds, than I can at 100....

I also shoot tighter groups at 100 yds on lower powers than I do on higher powers on the old scope....

I don't know if all of this applies to others... but it sure darn well applies to seafire

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Well, this is not an unheard of phenomenon. There have been stories circulating for lots of years of rifles that shot better at longer ranges than they did at 100 yards. Lots of conjecture about the bullets"going to sleep" after they had traveled a ways.

I have seen a recent case as well. My dad has a new Weatherby Accumark in .257 Wby Mag that was driving him crazy. He did all sorts of things to it like recrowning the barrel and glass bedding the action. Still the thing shot 1.5 or 2 inch groups at 100 yards.

He was very frustrated with it, on the verge of selling it. We were testing some other rifles at 400 yards and he decided to shoot that rifle along with the others just to see how bad it would be. Well, much to our amazement, it shot good groups at 400 yards. I was really teasing him, telling him he just had to let the animals run away before shooting.

To prove that it will shoot well at long range he busted an antelope this fall at a lasered range of 429 yards. He is lots happier with that rifle today.


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My AR15 shoots better at longer ranges than it does at 100 yards.


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I spoke to my gunsmith today and he says it is not uncommon for a gun to shoot better past 100 yds. Espically with barrels with a fast twist.
 
Posts: 9 | Location: Tenn, | Registered: 16 April 2005Reply With Quote
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Could be something really simple, like maybe aiming smaller at longer distances. Do you have the power cranked up on the scope at 100 yds. If so, try turning it down and aiming smaller.


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