I was present this week at a gun counter when a CZ 427 .223 American sporter weight was pulled for a customer. Inside the box was the factory 100m test target. I glanced over at it and remarked that it was good accuracy for out-of the-box, and the clerk that was helping me expressed surprise, said "I wouldn't have a rifle that wouldn't do any better than that. But I wouldn't have a .223 anyway, got no use for it." (Though later he did volunteer he had a Bushy)



Out came the ruler; it was a little under .75".



I said it was a good bit better than what I was getting with my Ruger ultralight .223. He said I should get rid of it. I wished I had pointed out that I had purchased the Ruger at that store- would they give me back what I paid? You never think of the best comebacks in time.



So now .75MOA is unacceptable accuracy for an out-of-the-box sporter.

The bar's getting pretty high....gotta love some of those retail clerks!

Owning that "Bushy" must make him an expert on firearms and the sport. Bet he dresses up all in black when he shoots it, too.

I have a "Bushy" that will shoot less than MOA with iron sights. Of course its got a Lothar Walther barrel and weights 12 pounds. There are many like it arround.
I do agree "acceptable accuracy" is getting out of hand. My main hunting rifle is an old Winchester that would have a tough time getting near 1 MOA, but it's never let me down.
I would buy a CZ in a minute if I needed one, and If they actually make a left handed 550 it will be my next purchase.
Don't dis the "Bushy".
Covey16

Nobody's criticizing Bushmaster here. In fact I'll take this opportunity to commend them for picking up the old Pro-Ordnance Carbon-15 line and honoring their warranty.

Mine had a weak bolt detent spring and Bushy sent another, no charge, no delay.

Any rifle in the 427s weight class is a hunting firearm. In the field, shooting uphill and downhill, over 100 yards with different positions and holds with the barrel temp changing all the time there will be no difference bewteen that one and one that shoots 1.5 MOA. The clerk is wedded to target shooting and actually thinks that a difference of .75 MOA whill give different hunting results. It won't. In fact I will take a seroius varmint hunter with a 1.5 mOA 223 and give you 10 to 1 odds his/her count is higher than the clerk can do with the .75 MOA rifle. Any takers?

What's really funny, is that the factory test targets are not fired for accuracy, only function!!!! I've seen 3 inch test targets from 1/2 moa guns.

You're right; I guarantee that 3/4 moa is probably better than the guy in question can shoot.

A thought, CZ includes test targets, with rifles that don't have fixed sights.
They are only function test targets.
The one that came with my 452, was less than .500", and it is a "no sight" model.

Yeah, my CZ 527 American in .223 came with a half-inch group on the test target and no sights. It still shoots a half-inch for me pretty consistently on a calm day and if I am "in the groove."

In fact, I was just blasting ground squirrels with it last Saturday! 27.0 gr off H-335, standard primer and a 50 gr TNT gave new meaning to the words "hang time."

I've never heard of a model 427, you must mean the CZ 527