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Anyone on this forum using any of the .20
calibers? I've posted here before about the
Tactical 20 but got very little response.

Perhaps that has changed because Todd
Kindler is having trouble keeping a stock
supply of the proprietary Tactical 20 Redding
dies. If there's anyone here who reloads
for the Tac20 using other forming/neck sizing
dies, I'd sure appreciate that information!

Thanks!

 
Posts: 565 | Location: Walker, IA, USA | Registered: 03 December 2001Reply With Quote
<Todd A Kindler>
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We have the Tactical 20 form dies in stock. Our next order of Tactical 20 loading dies are due in a couple weeks. We work very hard to keep as many 17 and 20 caliber dies in stock at all times however the Tactical 20 is really in demand. If anyone has any questions on dies or availabilty please contact our office (330) 897-0614. Remember most of the dies we stock are "custom dies" and we are at the mercy of the manufacturers and they do their best to deliver on a timely basis . Hope this helps.


Todd Kindler-Editor Small Caliber News
www.smallcaliber.com & www.woodchuckden.com
Ph. (330) 897-0614

 
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Todd, please, I meant no offense when stating
you were having trouble with the demand. All
I meant was that the demand is greater than
the supply. HONEST!

C'mon, guys, SURELY some of Todd's Tactical
20 die customers are out there???? There's
too many of his dies being sold for there
NOT to be!!!

 
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<Arizona Larry>
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Hello,
Just some info if your interested. I saw a new Cooper Arms tactical 20 rifle advertised on Gunsamerica.com. I think it was about $1195. It's good to see a gun company respond to customer desires. Maybe Todd Kindler had something to do with it?
 
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I was browsing the twenty caliber page recently, and came across a version of the .20 that I was unaware of. It is called the .20 Jordan, and it looks like an improved .223 case necked to the .20. Is anyone familiar with this round? Can someone give me some ballistics for this round? From the looks of the photograph I saw, it is a little hotter than the "Tactical Twenty" BTW, I am building a "TT" at this time.
 
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Ridgerunner,

The .20 Jordan is indeed an improved .223 case. The design does not feed from the mag in a Remington 700 due to an almost total lack of taper, but would likely be great in a single shot. I now have a Tactical .20 built on that same 700, and love it. Its my favorite P-dog shooter.

Hey Dan, how is yours working out?

Mike Johnston

[This message has been edited by Mike J (edited 03-22-2002).]

 
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Thanks Mike, especially the info about the Jordan needing to be a single shot. I am building my rifle from the 700 action. It will have a Shilen barrel and a Rimrock stock. Now comes the hard part: Waiting the agonizing 4 months or so until I can get my pea pickers around it......LOL "Ridge"
 
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Hey Mike!

Although the cases were wrinkled below the
shoulder, the 20 VarTarg Turbo die did the
job of getting 50 rounds put together. Last
weekend was the first since getting the T20
barrel that was even half decent here in NE
Iowa, although it was a little too windy.

The results weren't spectacular because of
the wind, and I was laying in a prone
position instead of at a bench (prone to get
as much as possible out of the wind). Even
at that I went from 2" group to 1" group.
This I DO NOT understand -- I was using a
different place on the target for the
"fouling" shots, four total. The fouling shot
group measured just over 1/4 inch! Duh-what!?

These Win cases are definately in need of
annealing after the downsize and fire forming
shot. They REALLY got work hardened!

Have already decided I prefer the Hornady
over the Berger. One of our male rheas
decided to get mean enough to attempt running
everything else through the fences, so after
sighting the scope in, decided to show him
who the meanest SOB on the place really is.
Placed a Berger in the Encore and went for a
neck shot. It just poked a hole through,
without enough of a shock to do much damage
to the spine. Second shot was with a V-Max
which never reached him--ya should never
shoot through a fence. I "knew" the bullet
would not hit that cattle panel if I tried
to hit it -- WRONG! It snapped that 1/4"
rod like nitro! Third shot (cleared the
fence) went to the head with another V-Max.
Well, there was some skin left on the
entrance side of the head. And his head was
about the size of a small woman's fist.

Yes, I too, am gonna like this T20. It's
really a change to see the target through
the scope after the trigger is pulled (the
puff of gray smoke at the cattle panel was
pretty impressive!). When we get a nice day
and I can use a bench, there's no doubt in
my mind that she is capable of less than 1/2
inch groups and we can attain that. There's
a couple of marauding fox that I want her
to meet this fall.

 
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Mike,

Forgot to ask. Do you have any trajectory
charts for the Tactical 20? I have a
ballistics program, but believe something
is wrong with the info it's spitting out
about the T20; 300-500 range drop would be
as bad as my 209x50. Can't quite swallow
that!

 
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Dan,

Shooting cattle panel, eh? Never new a full grown rhea could hide behind a fence!

I ran a chart using Sierra's program. With a BC of .185 and MV of 4300, it compares favorably to a .22-250.

Mike

 
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Originally posted by Mike J:
Dan,

Shooting cattle panel, eh? Never new a full grown rhea could hide behind a fence!


Mike


Well, you would think after 40 years of
shooting this or that, I would learn. Back
in my bow hunting days it was a small twig
between the arrow and a deer that I would
"never" hit - one educated deer coming up!
Then there was the blade of grass between
the 22/250 muzzle and a prairie dog - he
didn't learn fast enough, the second shot
was not obstructed by grass. Perhaps someday
I will be old enough to learn!

 
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