Went to the range yesterday with my granddaughter to sight in her new Savage Lady Hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor. I was using Winchester Match ammo with 140 grain bullets. On 4 of 20 rounds shot, the primers fell out after the shot. What's up with that?

Were there any other signs of excessive pressure?
I'd contact Winchester and ask if that should be normal and see what they say.

In the past I've experienced both Winchester over sized primer pockets and under undersized primer ODs. Still might be happening. roger

I did contact Winchester. Here is their bullshit answer:

"Thank you for contacting Winchester Ammunition.

We appreciate your business and we look forward to providing you with the same high level of customer service and support you have come to expect from us.

Here is the initial question/comment you submitted to Winchester on 8/5/2015along with our response.

Question:

I shot a box of new Winchester match ammo in 6.5 Creedmoor with 140 gr. bullets. On 4 of the 20 rounds fired, the primers fell out when ejecting the spent cartridge. This can't be normal. What's up with that?

Answer:
Thank you for contacting Winchester. I am sorry that you were not completely satisfied with your recent Winchester Ammunition purchase. Here is a link to our online support form, www.winchester.com/Product-Ser...ages/Contact-Us.aspx. If you can provide some contact info and answer a couple questions, one of our customer support reps will work with you to resolve the issue and ensure that you are satisfied with the solution.

Thank you for your feedback and for being a valued Winchester customer.

Sincerely,

Consumer Service Department Winchester Ammunition For additional information on Winchester Ammunition products, please visit our website at Winchester.com."

That's not a BS answer. They want you to fill out their online support form. There is nothing wrong with that. The Complaint form asks for customer information like name, address, phone number. It asks "Incident Related" information like ammunition type, lot number, purchase date. Then it asks for firearm type, make, and model. It has a field for you to describe the type and nature of the complaint. Finally, they offer links for you to use to upload pictures and documents.

If you have not yet submitted the complaint form I suggest you do that before judging their response.

First thing I would do is check Headspace.

Do what Win. asked you to do..Its probably bad ammo..

However my first suggestion is have a chamber cast made, that shouldn't cost more than $15 or $20 bucks with a gunsmith. You may have a headspace and that's the makers problem to solve for you.

All that information was supplied in the original request, except lot number and serial number. However, I'll move forward, breath through my nose and try again.

Thanks for the comments about head space.

Scott,

Here is a stupid question. Did you thoroughly clean the barrel before shooting? I ask because many years ago I took a new off the rack rifle to the range one time and there was enough grease in the bore to lock up my bolt because of excessive pressure. Pressure could have blown the primers.

Mark

Mark,
No, I did not. Never thought to clean it before shooting it. I cleaned it after every shot for the first ten. Then after every three.

My uncle bought some Remington Core Lokt 270win ammo once that did not have flash holes. I should have taken pictures, but he sent them back a couple of days later. I thought it was more comical than he did.

A little over a month after contacting Winchester, they called and asked that I send the cases and blown out primers for examination.

2 years a ago I had to send back 20 boxes of .270 Win that blew the primers out of 5/10 rounds. Wrong powder.

It happens. Thirty years ago a local gunshop in Boise had an early fall sale on hunting rifles. I kinda always wanted a Weatherby MK V in 300 Weatherby. 30% off, so I bought one and two boxes of ammunition. Took the rifle home, ran a cleaning rod down the bore, and went to the range. I could NOT get a round to chamber. Tried all forty rounds. Nothing!

So, I loaded everything up, and went back to the gunshop. Went down to the basement, and showed it to the gunsmith. He looks with a bore scope, and starts laughing. Despite the enclosed target showing 3-rounds in about 5/8ths of an inch at one hundred yards, the rifle had not been chambered. He called Wby, and they were incredulous. "Cannot be. We test fire every rifle. Swap him out another 300 and send this one back..."


After we quit laughing, he tells me "this rifle is the most valuable Wby ever built." Elgin Gates had moved to Idaho the year before. He called him, and two days later Gates showed up to see the rifle. I got a call, to drive over. Gates wanted to buy the rifle. He was one of the first to win the Wby award for (millionaire) hunters that had shot about one of everything in the world.

Anyway, Gates had a huge collection of Wbys. He offered me ten times what I had paid for the rifle. Sold! to the man in eastern Idaho.

What?
No one going to try to top that tall tale?
I was looking for the emoticon smiley thing that rolls it's eyes and says "that last story it utter bullshit" but I couldn't find it....

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Originally posted by Snellstrom:
What?
No one going to try to top that tall tale?
I was looking for the emoticon smiley thing that rolls it's eyes and says "that last story it utter bullshit" but I couldn't find it....

You mean like this .... "That last story is utter bullshit"

Are the primers plated or brass colored?

The unplated WLR & WLRM primers I have fit loose in good new primer pockets and measure under size to the blueprint.

No offense, but like I care if you live or die, let alone your opinion on anything...

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I think Pinnochio is your new nickname


Looky there, we agree on something, I wouldn't pee on you if your hair was on fire!