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Interesting but pointless?
08 October 2009, 04:12
HaggisInteresting but pointless?
Morning lads.
Was farting about on the press the other day and thought I'd knock up one of these...
The pill is a 55gn .224FMJ but can you guess the name of the wildcat?
08 October 2009, 05:46
bartsche
.224 X 333 Jeffery. roger

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10 October 2009, 05:56
dlutter.22-06, I think it might also be known as a .22 Easling?
10 October 2009, 06:03
HaggisBartsche,
I like your reasoning behind a sound, educated guess but Mr Lutter, I salute you! Bang on the money!
I read somewhere that the Easling was considered a step too far but I'd love to know if anybody shoots it nowadays
10 October 2009, 22:52
wildboarThat long neck should help a little to prevent throat erosion.
11 October 2009, 00:55
Bobby TomekIt's been done a time or two. If you run it full-throttle, be prepared to swap barrels about as often as ultra-liberals make ill-informed and incorrect comments...

But it is INTERESTING -- no doubt about that.
Bobby
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11 October 2009, 04:55
dlutterI, too, would love to know if anyone is shooting this. Someday I'll build a rifle for this cartridge. I would like to have (and shoot)a set of rifles chambered in all calibers from .22 through .40 based on the .30-06 case. I may even throw in a .17 for good measure.

I've got a ways to go. Right now I only have .25-06,.30-06, and .338-06 AI
11 October 2009, 05:14
Alberta Canuckquote:
Originally posted by dlutter:
I, too, would love to know if anyone is shooting this. Someday I'll build a rifle for this cartridge. I would like to have (and shoot)a set of rifles chambered in all calibers from .22 through .40 based on the .30-06 case. I may even throw in a .17 for good measure.

I've got a ways to go. Right now I only have .25-06,.30-06, and .338-06 AI
You could save a little money and expand your coverage in that group by buying a used .280 Remington (7m/m-o6) and a used .35 Whelen (.35-06). And there's always the pre-owned .270 Winchester (.277-06)..... Oh yeh, almost forgot the .366"-06(9.3x62), you could buy that used instead of building it too.
For a .22-06, the one I always wanted to have was the .228 Ackley belted mag (has some other names for it too but I forget what they are without looking them up). That one is made by using a .228" bore and swaging '06 brass to form a belt at the case base. Of course, a person could do the same thing with the .224 bore and have a lot more bullets to choose from....
Then you've still got some kind of .244-bore to cover, as well as the 6.5's (the .256 Newton was a classic made off the '06 case), and the .323" AKA 8m/m-06, and the .333 OKH (.333"-06), the .375 Whelen and the .400 Whelen. Heaven only knows how many others. A deep pockets aspiration, but would be lot's of fun.
Good luck.
11 October 2009, 13:26
Gerard I have one. I built it in 2002/2003 and the article was written in 2005. Although I did not use it much this past season, it is now pushing 3000 shots fired and shows no sign of giving up. By far my favourite rifle for small to medium antelope.
13 October 2009, 05:55
HaggisHi Gerard,
Funnily enough, it was your web site got me thinking about this one. You used a 220 SWIFT as a donor barrel, I'm assuming a 1 in 12. To be honest, I'm gobsmacked you've had 3000+ through it and it aint a smoothbore! Well done that man.
I've been contemplating the 6.5-06 for a while but if I win the lottery, I'd have one of these built just for the hell of it!
13 October 2009, 19:32
GerardIt is a 1:14" twist which is why we shoot the 40gr HV bullets in it. I am pleasantly surprised with the number of shots we have done so far. 22-250 rifles used for culling usually go about 1500 shots. We have seen 3000 shots with HV bullets but the barrel was done. Culling rifles are often shot too hot to touch whereas our hotrod is never shot hot. It is used for ambush culling and not from a vehicle with spotlights at night. One or two shots from cold is the norm. I can remember only one occasion where I shot four in quick succession.
I built another one a couple of years after mine and that one is at about 400 shots. Also no sign of throat wear on that. It is a Shilen 1:8" twist and the owner shoots 50gr HVs.
13 October 2009, 20:22
Low Wall220 Howell was written up a number of years ago in Precision Shooting IIRC.. The idea was to shoot heavy bullets from a fast twist at low pressure (low to mid forty cup IIRC) to conserve barrel life..
http://www.hunting-rifles.com/Ammo/ammunition.htm
15 October 2009, 00:41
dlutterGerard, very cool thanks for posting your website. What powders and how many grains of powder are you shooting? You don't have to list specifics, I'd be happy with ball park figures. Thanks
15 October 2009, 23:51
GerardThe powder type and load will not mean much, it is the previous generation locally made S361 powder (yellow label) from Somchem. It is a medium burning ball powder in the
burn rate group similar to BL C2 and Varget. I used 55 to 56 gr, depending on the case brand I started with.
16 October 2009, 01:02
DuggaBoyeBuilt a 22 Newton years ago--
not quite as much powder--
70 gr and 90gr 228's from Barnes and CCB--
8 twist--
Worked well.
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16 October 2009, 01:29
Idaho SharpshooterYou guys would like my 22-284. Remington 700, 1:9" twist Lilja barrel to shoot the 80gr JLK bullets. Sierra copied Jimmy Knox's design.
A couple years later I had a local guy build me a 22 Eargesplittenloudenboomer. Aka 22-378 Ackleyized. Now that is a hammer.
Rich
16 October 2009, 03:31
Haggisquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Aka 22-378 Ackleyized. Now that is a hammer.
Rich
As in 378 Weatherby mag?!!! Fffff.... sounds fun!
Anybody necked down a BMG or bigger? Where would it end and would it be truely pointless/do-able?!
16 October 2009, 19:56
Heatquote:
Originally posted by Haggis:
quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Aka 22-378 Ackleyized. Now that is a hammer.
Rich
As in 378 Weatherby mag?!!! Fffff.... sounds fun!
Anybody necked down a BMG or bigger? Where would it end and would it be truely pointless/do-able?!
This will give you a visual idea as well as some other interesting cartridges.Ken....
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