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can a 60 grn, 224 diameter nosler partition bullet be stabilized out of a 223 with a 1:12 twist?


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Posts: 1213 | Location: new braunfels, tx | Registered: 04 December 2001Reply With Quote
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It depends on how long it is. The Sierra 63 grain semi point bullet is blunt and short enough that it works out some of the too slow twist barrels. You will just have to try it to find out.
 
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i used it in a 14" 222 & it worked fine
 
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I have tried it in 5rifles.ugly Only worked on a1-8 barrel
 
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They worked fine for me with H-4895. They don't group as well as Ballistic Tips, but are good enough for my hunting distances.
 
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My buddy has a 14" 223 Contender that loves 60 gr vmaxes. His is a 1 in 12 twist. You wouldn't think they would shoot good from a "slow twist" short barrel, but they do.

You may have to drive them to near max velocities to get them to stabilize, only experimentation will tell you.

Each barrel is it's own individual. You won't know until you try them. Your barrel may or may not like the partitions, either way it doesn't mean that it will/won't shoot 60 gr bullets at all, it just might prefer or not prefer partitions.


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The Nosler 60 gr is ~0.830" long....optimum twist is 12 at ~3200fs and above...and it depends on what you think is accurate.

The "real" answer is...possibly...the only way to know is to try them...I have several 22 cals from 222 to 22-243 with 1-10, 1-12, and 1-14 but I can't seem to get that bullet to do anything much less than 0.750" in ANY of them...but for deer or varmints out to 250 yds or so that bullet has plenty of accuracy and killing powere at the higher velos.

If you want a a couple of good bullets for hunting larger game try the Sierra 63 or Speer 70...they both are more accurate in my guns than the Nosler, I've taken 300 lb muleys with both at reasonable ranges in my 22-250 and 22-243 and every twist I have will stabilize them at 222-223 velocities.

All my 1-14 twists would shoot the Hornady 60 gr SP very accurately BUT step up to the 60 VMax and it was patterns not groups...Slowpoke said it all.

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thanks for the replies folks. i'm going to give them a try


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Blaming accuracy problems on insufficient twist is just one more passing fancy in the gun world. Unless you are shooting it at a rather low velocity your 1-12" twist will fully and adeqauately stabalize a 60 grain Partition. I tested some of the longer 60- grain Ballistic Tips in a .223 with a barrel with a twist measuring about 1-13" and they shot very nice groups.

By the way, the "length" of the bullet as measured from base to tip is not particularly meaningful in determining what twist is required to stabalize it. The location of its CG will vary with whether it has a hollow point, plastic tip, or lead nose -- and none of those bullets will behave the same way just because they are the same length. So, published formulas purporting to establish "minimum" or "optimum" twists which are based solely on the length of the bullet are based on an insufficient premise and can only give you a very rough idea of what is required.

Footnote, 6-29: Brain freeze: Forgot to mention that I have been using the 60 grain Partitions as deer loads in my grandson's .223 with a 20", 1-14 barrel. Velocity is only 2900 and they shoot just fine.
 
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i tried them yesterday. they stabilized just fine at 2900-3200. 3200 was getting kind of hot so i'll try them at 3100 and see what the accuracy looks like.


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Uh, how does a rifle in .257 calibre get to be a dangerous game rifle??


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