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Interested in the H-S stocked, 1:9 twist model, caliber .223........I have two Remingtons in .223 but not the 1:9, comments invited. r in s. | ||
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bought one and then sold my remington. love it . cut mine off at 20 in. just like my pss was great rifle. VERITAS ODIUM PARIT | |||
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 After the elimination of some latent infintile defects and 500 rounds to burn the barrel in my CZ., 527 American in .222 is a charmer. It is easy to carry all day(light),and NOW smooth to operate and accurate to boot.  2 years ago I had a different tune.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Ray.... I have seven CZ527s, all are great shooters. John in Oregon | |||
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Mine is in 221 Fireball. Outstanding accuracy! | |||
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My CZ 527 Lux/American is fantastically accurate. At 100 yards with 50 gr Hornady SX bullets, Winchester 748 powder, Remington cases and Federal primers, my rifle from a sandbag rest will put five into a 3/8 inch group. I have no objection at all to the magazine hanging down, some do. It has an action as smooth as a supermodel and is just one fantastic, light little rifle. I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 in 7x21x40 mounted on it. That combo is tops for me. My brother owns a 527 in .221 fireball and he loves the thing. These little rifles offer a lot more for the money in my opinion ... they are well built, well execyted, a joy to carry and shoot. I hope this helps. Tom Purdom | |||
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Mine is the Varmint model, 1-12, with the blonde Maple stock. It looks good and shoots up to 58g bullets very well. Mine really likes the 40g VMax and 40g NBT. The set trigger is so good I wish a couple of my other rifles had one. | |||
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I have the American model 527 in .223. I was not happy with the warranty service from CZ, as the rifle came with a split stock. They insisted I return the entire rifle to them so that they could "bed the action and barrel properly." (I would have preferred to just mail them the stock and have them send me a new one...) When the rifle came back, the stock was junk. THe barrel was no longer free-floated, the barrel channel was rough and unfinished - it looked like it had simply been rasped out - and the checkering looked like a kid in middle school wood shop had done it. I fixed it up and the gun now shoots like a dream. Sub-half inch groups are the norm. The action is a bit rough, but is getting smoother with age and use. For the money, and if you check your specimien over well before you buy it, they are about the best deal going for a lightweight varmint rifle. | |||
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My 527 American is in a 22 hornet. It is a great shooting rifle with the factory Vmax 35 gr ammo. I had a Browning A bolt in 22 H and this gun is much more accurate, with a fantastic trigger, love that single set option. FS | |||
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I own two 527 CZ's in the .223 one Kevlar and the other the wood varmint, both are very accurate. I like CZ's, because I own four, but the bolt sliding is kind of rough on all of mine. | |||
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 After 2.5 Hrs. of honeing and stoneing and maybe 200 rounds mine became smooth. Felt like the Lone Ranger on this one till now. rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I was very hesitant to buy one, then the right deal came along.  So, my 527 is chambered in 7.62x39, and I'm pleased with it. I had my gunsmith glass bed the barreled action, and remove the sights. It's a little awkward with the backward safety, and messing with the detachable magazines, but it makes up for that by being very accurate and fun to shoot. I really like it.KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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Does anybody make a 3-position safety for these? "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." -- General George S. Patton | |||
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I really like my 527 Varmint in 204 Ruger. It shoots some fantastic groups and averages in the .4's. I have done a trigger job on it and have not bedded it because it shoots so well. Very nice rifles for the money. Mike. | |||
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My 527 American in 223 shot .45 MOA with 5 shots right out of the box. Love it! In politics as in theology! "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, But the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 | |||
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I have one. Great shooter, here it is decked out with VXL 6.5x20x56LR and versapod  | |||
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I have a carbine in 7.62X39mm. It is very accurate with a handloaded 150-grain Sierra .308" size bullet at a MV of 2300 FPS using H335 powder. The only feature I would change is I would prefer a 5-round staggered-row Mauser type internal box magazine with hinged floorplate vs the detachable type that sticks out the bottom. But I can live with it, if I stop misplacing the magazine....... The top group was shot with WW factory ammo, 123-grain FMJ military type. Bottom is with the Sierra .308", 150 grain PSP flatbase bullet. (100 yards)  "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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The 221 Fireball looks like fun ..... Should be a great coyote rifle .... .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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A good friend has one in .223 that I load for. It is very accurate, and the single set trigger is outstanding. I'd love to have it on any gun I own. There are four design shortcomings that desperately need correction: 1. First and foremost, the backward-operating safety is a hazard to everyone. It should never have left the factory and begs for revision. 2. The root of the bolt handle is unnecessarily thick, forcing the scope to be mounted much higher than is desirable in order to clear the bolt root as the bolt is withdrawn from the action. Trimming .15" off of this bolt root would improve the looks and operation of the action. 3. As a correlary to #2, the action badly needs lower scope mounts (once the bolt root problem is addressed), and the stock also needs a higher comb. 4. Most people would prefer either a staggered box magazine, or a removable double stack magazine that fits flush, or a single-stack flush fitting magazine that takes one less cartridge. The current single-stack magazine protruding below the stock line is the poorest of all of the arrangements to most folk's taste. Not a defect, but simply a matter of taste: The stain CZ uses on their stocks is rather opaque and obscures what grain may be there. They should change to a more transparent stain that shows the wood rather than looking more like a coat of brown paint. None of these modifications would cost anything in terms of manufacturing costs (except the redesign of the safety). But I can assure you, CZ WILL redesign the safety sooner or later when faced with a personal injury suit that they will lose hands down due to producing a safety that operates the opposite of every other safety in the known world. I'm no lawyer, but even I can see that this is a plantiff attorney's dream served up on a silver platter. My friend's son was using this gun part of the time on a recent prairie dog hunt. I strictly instructed him NOT to utilize the safety under any circumstances, but rather keep the bolt open except when he was actually sighting on a dog. Switching between guns on which the safeties are backward from one another is a sure recipe for disaster. | |||
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You covered about 80% of the out of the box problems nicely. Stonecreek.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I agree with all the proposed improvements Stonecreek lists. In addition, I would like to see the Mannlicher stock available as an option for all the carbine calibers....... "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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Got a little insperation from this thread and am starting to load some of those 34 gr,. hp Mid South bullets for the CZ 527, .222. me thinks to try about 23.5 gr. of 2200.  roger  Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I have no problem with the safety. It works just like the hammer on my lever actions and revolvers. Pull back to fire. Crossbolt safeties and their different locations are what confuse me. Bruce | |||
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Neat analogy, Bruce. rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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But at least crossbolt safeties are always designed by the factory to be "on safe" when pushed from left to right, and "on fire" when pushed from right to left. (Unfortunately, some guns can be converted to work the opposite, presumably for the benefit of left-handers.) Cocking a hammer gun is so much different from working a safety that there should be no connection in your mind. Besides, many guns, such as auto pistols, have BOTH a hammer and a safety. The safety is always positioned so that pushing forward is "fire" and to the rear is "safe". Even the newer hammer guns with crossbolt safties are "on safe" when pushed to the right. What Earthly rationale could CZ possibly have for purposfully designing a safety that works backwards? Sure, you can learn to use it, but it's like owning several cars and ONE of them has the brake and accelerator pedals reversed -- not good! | |||
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had a 223 american that was a honest 1/2" rifle, got ride of it because..1. the backwards safety, 2 they are impossible to carry due to the clip, & 3 the action was rougher tahn a russian 22. | |||
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Friends- Stonecreek is right on with his analysis of the CZ-527. Now of the four issues he described above, James Calhoon, can help you with two of those. He can alter the bolt handle for you and supply you with scope bases that allow for the lower mounting of your scope. The safety and the magazine/clip are what they are. Now if you are a Hornet person such as myself, your choices are pretty limited and thus the CZ is the way to go, IHO. Scaling up in cartridge size to .222, .223, .221 Fireball, there are other rifle choices out there, should the safety and detachable clip be non-starters for you. May the wind be in your face and the sun at your back. P. Mark Stark | |||
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Mine is the 221 fireball, fantastic accuracy for a light barrel. Mine will run under 1/2" for lads it likes, around 1' for most any load. The bolt was sticky and a little rough moving on mine also but it slicked up in less than 200 rds. For the money I don't think you could find a better "walking varmint" rifle. Light, accurate, great trigger and the fireball is an awesome caliber. 3-7-77 | |||
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And some pistol safeties push up to fire while others push down to fire.
It matched their Mauser (ZG48?) which had a side-mounted bolt sleeve safety that rotated back to fire, if I remember correctly. And at the time, in Europe, there were few rifles not based on "military" actions that had anything other than conventional bolt sleeve safeties. The ZG48 safety was a way to make it scope friendly. Anyway, I have rifles with hammers, tang safeties, left side bolt sleeve, right side bolt sleeve, top bolt sleeve, crossbolts, Rem 700, and Win70 style safeties. The only confusion I ever have is the crossbolt safeties-sometimes in front of the trigger, sometimes behind, and that M1 Carbine safety that I can never seem to remember (isn't it back to fire?). I'm not in combat with these, and the CZ's similarity to the hammer rifles seems to make it easy for me. Bruce | |||
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I have one in 223... lovely rifle. I didn't buy it to look at it, I bought it to use it - so the protruding mag isn't an issue for me... I rarely use the safety anyway (bolt up is my preference) so the reverse function isn't an issue. I have Ruger 77 (tang and MkII), Win pre 64 M70, Browning, and so on - if I couldn't remember how the safety works,I'd be hanging up my rifles... it ain't that difficult.. ******************************** A gun is a tool. A moron is a moron. A moron with a hammer who busts something is still just a moron, it's not a hammer problem. Daniel77 | |||
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Interesting, I was unaware of the ZG48 and its safety. Seems as if BRNO/CZ has a history in the area of backward safeties. | |||
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I agree with rugeruser. My cz527 in 223 is a fantastic rifle. It loves 55 grain sierra gamekings and 50 grain hornadys. It has been used to shoot 8 red deer, lots of goats and heaps of hares in the last 2 years. It is very accurate. Initilly I found the mag a pain but have got used to carrying it. It is a work rifle and can get a hard time with knocks but I'm not worried. For the money in my opinion very hard to beat. | |||
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Mark: You make a good point that there is a dearth of good actions/rifles for the Hornet. The little Kimber 82 was great, and I'm puzzled as to why the current Kimber of NY doesn't offer it in Hornet, K-Hornet, Bee, and even the 5.7 FN which would make a dandy small rifle round. If you can locate a Sako P72, P75, or M78 (virtually identical to one another) in Hornet, they are fine little rifles. Of course so is the long out-of-production Walther, and the Winchester Model 43. The Ruger 77/22 is a nice-looking rifle/action, but as we all know, they have their accuracy challenges. It seems that everyone else's Hornet is built on an action large enough for a .300 WSM. What's the point in having a tiny cartridge if you have to put it in a big gun? At least the CZ 527 is only big enough for a .223, so it comes closer than most to being properly sized for the Hornet. | |||
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 There is some fresh .222, CZ. 527 data posted under reloading, using the Mid South 34 gr. HP. bullet.Not all bad ! rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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