Nosler apparently has a huge overrun of 55gr 6mm bullets. Kind of lightweight, but I suppose they would work for small critters/target practice. Just thought I'd share this with the forum if anyone is interested.

nosler bullet link

Since their normal 55 grain BT in 6mm caliber is a boat tail, I suspect a great marketing scam to sell an error at the factory making flat bases instead of boat tails.....just my guess....this isn't at all an overrun....it's a factory screw up and this is how they are "dumping" them....

Regardless.....at a "dime a piece" this is a great bargain (assuming they shoot)....

WESR...thanks for the link and the heads up!

vapodog: I think you are way off on this one. If you look at the add you would see they were a overrun for Oz. The 6x45 (aka 6.5x223Rem) is big down-under and would do 3250-3300fps. The bullet looks like a upscaled 40gr Hornet bullet.

Nosler has been selling the S.H.O.T.S. bullets for years to the Australian market. They are thin-jacketed pure lead cored bullets designed to disintegrate when they hit the kangaroo's head - the preferred method of dispatch. Available in .224" (since 2005 at least) and apparently in .243" as well. They should work well for varminting; I used the 55BTips in my M77VT/.243WCF and they were the most accurate bullets in that rifle. At 4000+ fps they shot flat out to 400 yards and bucked the wind surprisingly well.


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Bought a 1000 yesterday. Now I got to find some roos roger

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Originally posted by Fat_Albert:
vapodog: I think you are way off on this one.

That is quite possible.....but in any case it's a bargain for sure.....

The boat tails I use in my .243 shoot great and I'd suspect the flat base bullets to do the same. That darn bullet actually makes the .22-250 obsolete.....I love em!

Man 1000 243 bullets would last me 2 lifetimes.

Well ordered 1000 so now my kids will have left overs when I'm gone.

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Originally posted by ramrod340:
Man 1000 243 bullets would last me 2 lifetimes.

Well ordered 1000 so now my kids will have left overs when I'm gone.

I ordered 2000 (grandkids). If it's a factory screw up, its most likely that someone misplaced a decimal point on the production paperwork and there a few tens or hundreds of thousands extra. I got a really good deal on some Shilen barrels that way a good while back.

Man I'm going to have to get some and shoot them in my 6x47! The are just a little cheaper than the 55 grain Midway Dogtowns I just bought.

They the same bullet you just bought from Midway...

Mine just got here. Short little buggers. Remind me of a scaled version of the 35 gr V-Max. Now all I need is a neck-less cartridge case so I can seat them out to the lands...

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by Fat_Albert:
vapodog: I think you are way off on this one.

That is quite possible.....but in any case it's a bargain for sure.....

That darn bullet actually makes the .22-250 obsolete.....I love em!

Vd! Make the 22 -250 obsolete? NOT!! You been smoking the funny stuff again?? roger

Shot these bullets today. The first three loads gave us about an 8 foot group at 100 yds. The next load looked to be about 1" at 100 yds. The difference was about 400 ft./sec.Bullets that were driven over 3900 fps. did not print on paper. Not sure what the exact limit is but 3550 fps. or there abouts seem to hold together. Stiff loads of medium burning rate powders were the problem. FYI. roger

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These bullets were specifically made for the Austrailian Kangaroo market.

So who's going to be the first one to post the thread: 'What's the best all around kangaroo cartridge?'

MHO, 55 gr seems a little light for roos, aren't they about the size of a white tail?

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Shot these bullets today. The first three loads gave us about an 8 foot group at 100 yds. The next load looked to be about 1" at 100 yds. The difference was about 400 ft./sec.Bullets that were driven over 3900 fps. did not print on paper. Not sure what the exact limit is but 3550 fps. or there abouts seem to hold together. Stiff loads of medium burning rate powders were the problem. FYI. roger

Roger,

try a load of 30 grains of RL 7 in the 243, with a one in ten twist or slower...

it should give an MV in the 3350 fps range with that bullet in a 22 inch barrel.

IMR 4198 should also work well with the same charge... remember the bullet is made for 6 x 47 velocities...

a fast MV in a one in ten twist or faster is probably too much for the bullet to handle, especially since it is designed to be semi-fragile to fragile.

I use those two loads along with 30 grains of RL 10 or H 322 with 58 grain and 65 grain V Maxes and 60 grain Sierra Hps in my 243s.

work well enough, are accurate as heck and are real easy on both the barrels and the brass..

kinda of making my 243s into the equivalent of a 6 BR..

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MHO, 55 gr seems a little light for roos, aren't they about the size of a white tail?

Not at all. These guys are professional kangaroo shooters that do this all year around. Then sell the meat or the hides.

Check out:

http://www.aushunt.com.au/main...articleid=e26bd86c45

http://www.rooshooter.com.au/

It is all head shots. Never body shots. That is THE LAW in fact.

See:

http://www.environment.gov.au/...aroo-report/cop.html



Maybe you could all organise some stateside roo shooting matches with all those bullets! At night, of course! Now that would test even the best marksmen!

interesting links there Enfield!

thanks for sharing!!

just ordered 1000. i bet they will work great in my 6ppc for bobcats, yotes and our local man eating bullfrogs

Can not get a 3 shot group under an inch with a rifle that is capable of .300" at 100 yds., even with velocities under 3400 fps. roger

These bullets are interesting. They have shot okay in my Sako A-7, and I really thought they would shoot better in the Stevens 200 that my oldest son has pretty much assumed ownership of. So we were at the range yesterday zeroing the new Redfield Revolution 4-12X scope on said Stevens in .243 Win, and after getting it on paper, I suggested he try some of my leftover loads from my initial loading batch with the Accurate 2015 powder. He did and the first two didn't even hit the paper. Puzzled, I said try another one, and it did hit the paper - sideways! It literally looked like the shape of the 55 gr bullet outline on the target. Another one did the same thing and the next one missed the paper completely. I then tried a couple at a ram silhouette at 200 meters, and struck 100 meters in front of the target, another hit 50 meters in front of the target and 20 meters to the left, all of these with the Stevens. Now with the Sako A-7, I was able to hit the ram, as well as shoot a couple of inch and a half to 2 inch groups at the 100 yard target. Any ideas? I believe both rifles share a 1 in 10" twist rate and have about a 22" barrel. I have never seen this before. Is the twist too fast for the short bullet? Could it be that the Stevens barrel is too rough for the thin jacketed 55 gr cup and core bullet? Then why does the Sako seem to be able to shoot them okay? Anyone? (I do have over 900 of these bullets, so I sure hope I can figure out what the problem is.)

I haven't done much with the 100 I picked up from someone on another forum to try. I did shoot a few out of my shorty 6x47 carbine, but accuracy was poor. I don't think speed or twist is and issue with my barrel, as it's an 18" bbl and it's a 1-12 twist. I didn't chrono them, but I doubt I hit 3000 fps, or if that, not much over it.

I have some more made up to test, but haven't shot them.

So far I'm glad I'm not sitting on 1000 of them.

Of about 5 more different loadings NONE shoot worth a tinkers Damn. If accuracy is not your game than I guess they are one hell-of-a bargin. roger

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Originally posted by Rub Line:

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These bullets were specifically made for the Austrailian Kangaroo market.

So who's going to be the first one to post the thread: 'What's the best all around kangaroo cartridge?'

MHO, 55 gr seems a little light for roos, aren't they about the size of a white tail?

The 6PPC and 2PPC are quite popular for Roo shooting here where legal and underlicense. The .223 is used by beginners and pros alike. 6x45, 6x47 and downloaded 22-250's (3,000 fps) are also popular. If you shoot 50-75 roos a night (a big night) then powder costs become a major factor in profitability, hence the use of smaller cases.

The 6mm has a distinct advantage if you come across pigs which realise a higher price per kg than roos shot for human consumption.

Eastern Grey Kangaroos can range from 25-45kg (50-90lbs) but western Reds get much larger. You don't see Roos too often on windy nights so dopeing wind is not a problem but a bit of weight in the projectile helps carry more thump over longer distances.

Musta all sold,couldn't find them on the site.After the flowing reports on them I thought I'd have to try 100 or so but non availabilaty saved me the trouble.


Aaron

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Originally posted by 3006va:
Musta all sold,couldn't find them on the site.After the flowing reports on them I thought I'd have to try 100 or so but non availabilaty saved me the trouble.


Aaron

Hey Aaron, if I can't find a load that will shoot decently, I will probably send you an instant message for your address and send you 100 for free. Misery loves company. I have always been pleased with Nosler's products. This is a first, to be disappointed with anything out of Bend, Oregon with the Nosler name on it.

I do hope you find a load that works in your barrel but if not I wouldn't turn them down and would be more than willing to pay for them.
Thanks Aaron

Aaron, I have an extra box of 1000. I bought 2k and haven't loaded the first one yet. I don't remember exactly what they cost to my door, but if you want them, I think I can mail you one box for $11.65. Add a C-note and they are at your door...

PM me if you are interested.

PM me your addy, I'd love to try 100.
Aaron

I tried some other powders and actually got some decent 3 shot groups in my Sako A-7. Contrary to what I have heard, it seems to shoot better at higher velocities. I didn't have my chronograph set up, but the two best groups were with 45.0 gr of Hodgon Varget and 45.0 gr of IMR-4064. These are hardly mild loads and I imagine would trip the skyscreens at 3800 to 3900 fps. I also seated them out a bit, so there wasn't a whole lot of the bullet in the case, but that might have also aided in the accuracy. Additional experimenting to follow, but I think there is hope for these bullets as a short range varmint load for coyotes and rock chucks. Probably not the bullet for shots beyond 200 yards or so, since I am sure the ballistic coefficient is not impressive compared to the Ballistic Tip or V-Max.