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45 or 53 gr TSX in Slow Twist .22-250?
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Hi everyone,

I've been thinking of trying the tsx in my 1:14 twist .22-250. I've heard rumors that the 53 gr tsx is too long for the 1:14, but wanted to get first hand information.

Any hints and tips are welcome.


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I know a couple folks who said they got decent results with 1:14s and the 53 grain TSX, but quite a few others reported just the opposite.

I wouldn't get my hopes too high for the 53 grain Barnes in the 1:14.


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The 53s would not shoot in my 14 twist Winchester. Have not tried 45s.


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I think Barnes says they need a 1:12" twist but that the 45 is made for 1:14 twists.

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Now, if you already have the 53s, this would be the perfect excuse to tell "Santa" a new rifle with a faster twist is in order. After all, it would be a shame to waste all those bullets... Big Grin


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A friend of mine gave me a box of 53s last year to try in my 22-250 for Antelope. I couldn't get them to shoot in my 223 Rem 700 take off barrel that's chambered to 22-250. I'm guessing it's 1-14.


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Hmm,

I must be lucky..

both shoot minute of deer out of any of the 22.250s I have..several having a one in 14 twist...

maybe its using Blue Dot in the 223 and 22.250s that stabilizing them...

they make a great bullet if you hunt shoot thousands of deer with a 22 Hornet...
 
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Know of a fellow in Canada that used the 45gr bullet in his Fireball to take a muley doe. One shot in the ribs was all it took. FS
 
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From my 14" twist .222 the 45 grain TSX shoots nicely.
 
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53's shoot out of (2) 1:14 22-250's I load for with great results.

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I have used nothing but the 53gr TSX's out of my 1:14 Rem LVSF in 22-250. Shoots great and haven't had any accuracy or performance problems on deer or antelope. They are running right at 3850fps max velocity. That may help.

My suggestion is to try them, and if they don't shoot, go to the 45gr.
 
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I wimped out and picked up a box of the 45 grain bullets. With a bit of luck, I'll make it to the range tomorrow and do a little testing.


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I've loaded some of the 53 grainers in my 22-250 and taken some smaller mulie bucks at long ranges with them.

I remember that the accuracy was ok somewhere in the area of .8 - 1.3 but not outstanding as the Nosler BT proved to be.
 
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My first accuracy testing produced very indifferent results; groups of roughly an inch at 100 yards. The same rifle consistently produces 1/2 inch groups with Sierra 55 gr bullets.

The accuracy is adequate but no better; maybe I'll try another powder next time.


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I wimped out and picked up a box of the 45 grain bullets.


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I would have preferred to use the 53 grain bullets. Since I don't have another .22 centerfire, the remainder of the box would be useless if they didn't work out.

Of course, spare bullets needing to be shot up is always an excellent rationale for the purchase of a new rifle.

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Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
Of course, spare bullets needing to be shot up is always an excellent rationale for the purchase of a new rifle.

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There is a lot of wisdom and, I guess, experience in this remark.
 
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Thank you for the samples, SD. I appreciate the offer greatly. With a bit of luck, I'll try them this weekend.


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My browning micro in 22-250 shoots the 45gr's very well, load them up around 3800+ and start seating .030". I seat mine .035 off the lands and load with 38.5gr of H380 = .5" groups and my gun is 1:14
 
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no problem, just make sure to give us the full report.
 
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I made it to the range today. This time, I tried Benchmark with the 45 gr bullets and RL 15 with the 53 gr bullets. Previously, I had tried AA2520 with the 45 gr bullets for mediocre results.

Today was a nice day without being dead calm. With occasional moderate wind, I managed to shoot a 0.710 (roughly) group with the 45 gr load and a 0.830 (roughly) group with the 53 gr load. In all honesty, I was very surprised that the 53 gr load shot so well, as I had so many problems with the 60 gr Hornady bullet.

I had seen others mention that the tsx did best when driven hard, so both these loads were 0.5 gr under the max listed on the Hodgdon website. Obviously, the other reports had an element of truth to them.

I'm really pleased that the 53 gr load shot so well; it was much better than I expected. Once again, thank you SD.

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Your welcome,

Thanks for the report.

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