257 Roberts Revival

.404

One of Us

posted

I will second that,again. It's a great caliber,well balanced ad kills stuff. I own a Mannlicher 1952 and Winchester 70,1953 and both will shoot the Remington green box fine,however the little M/S carbine prefers the Horny 117 RN. So I load,to me handloading is like foreplay, enjoy it!

I pray for mud on my boots the day I die...
Go see the nights of Africa.....

Posts: 208 | Location: back home in the Tarheel state | Registered: 16 July 2007

Ignored post by .404 posted

One of Us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
Winchester really should offer their Featherweight in 257 Roberts. While I'm making a list, Ruger needs to offer the 338 Federal in their 77RSI and 9.3x62 in their African.

the new winchester barrels are supposed to be real nice, I would like to see them make a bob in the extreme weather-short action.

Posts: 353 | Location: Georgia USA | Registered: 29 November 2005

Ignored post by Jimmy P Coaltrain posted

Snellstrom

One of Us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
The problem was that Cabela's had no 257 Robert's ammo, Period.

It did not matter the manufacturer, the load, whatever, there was not any to be had.

The point I am trying to make is what happens if you get to hunting camp, and thru no ones fault, you have no ammunition.

Wally World is damn sure not goping to have any.

I am not saying junk the 257 Robert's, I am saying that people that like the caliber need to start thinking of thr gun as a reloader/handloader only round.

I can't find .358 Win, .284 Win, 35 Whelen, 325 WSM, 6.5x55,375 H&H or 9.3x62 at Cabela's or Walmart either but it don't stop me from shooting them!
Even though I can buy 30/06 shells at Walmart I don't, I haven't fired a factory round in that rifle or most others for 20 years. I like to load I'm just peculiar that way.

Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005

Ignored post by Snellstrom posted

vapodog

One of Us

posted

quote:
I can't find .358 Win, .284 Win, 35 Whelen, 325 WSM, 6.5x55,375 H&H or 9.3x62 at Cabela's or Walmart either but it don't stop me from shooting them!

Darn right.....I also own a .30-06 and reload for that too!.....

The point about ammo availability is a good point, but it don't have to be an overriding issue at all!

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill

Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003

Ignored post by vapodog posted

rnovi

One of Us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

I am not saying junk the 257 Robert's, I am saying that people that like the caliber need to start thinking of thr gun as a reloader/handloader only round.

Yeah, True. But when you walk into hunt camp and the conversation turns inevitably to guns, it's nice to watch the hush come over the crowd when you say "Just a .257 Roberts..."

It's all about the delivery. In this case, right behind the ear...

The Bob. It just plain works.

Regards,

Robert

******************************
H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer!

Posts: 2321 | Location: Greater Nashville, TN | Registered: 23 June 2006

Ignored post by rnovi posted

waterrat

One of Us

posted

YYuukk I glad I don't have to hunt those things to test my bullets.

I tend to use more than enough gun

Posts: 1415 | Location: lake iliamna alaska | Registered: 10 February 2005

Ignored post by waterrat posted

Idaho Sharpshooter

One of Us

posted

I reload everything, I get to shoot about three times as much that way.
The Roberts just works real well for anything short of big bears if you know how to shoot it accurately.

Rich

Posts: 23062 | Location: SW Idaho | Registered: 19 December 2005

Ignored post by Idaho Sharpshooter posted

akpls

one of us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
The Roberts just works real well for anything short of big bears if you know how to shoot it accurately.

Funny how that works! I just can't convince some folks that I work with that a "magnum" just isn't necessary.

Posts: 513 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 25 October 2003

Ignored post by akpls posted

Idaho Sharpshooter

One of Us

posted

akpls,

there are two keys. Making the shot, and using a good bullet designed for the animal. Practice makes a shooter into a clean one-shot game harvester. The other part is learning how to stalk game to as close as possible.

Obviously, I have no issues with using "too much rifle"; but it's just as hard to drive a brad with a four pound baby sledge as it is to drive a railroad spike with a tackhammer.

What part of Alaska?

Rich

Posts: 23062 | Location: SW Idaho | Registered: 19 December 2005

Ignored post by Idaho Sharpshooter posted

One of Us

posted

I agreee and that is fine if its a handloaders round! If I am in hunting camp and I left my .257 roberts handloaded 100 grain TSX catridges at home, then I shall take out my 308 and force myself to hunt with it.

I never take one rifle, nor carry one pistol....

Posts: 353 | Location: Georgia USA | Registered: 29 November 2005

Ignored post by Jimmy P Coaltrain posted

One of Us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy P Coaltrain:
I read and re-read with trepidation the accounts of poor accuracy in the Kimber's but after a positive experience with an 8400 in 300WSM, I purchased a classic select in .257 Roberts. I am 100% happy with this rifle, and am 105% happy with the 257 Roberts! I want to buy the same rifle in the Montana skin so I have a rain proof version of the Roberts. Yesterday I shot two sub 3/4 inch groups with the 100 grain TSX bullets, it does not like th TTSX as you have to seat them deeper due to the tip and the short mag box at least on mine it does not like them, then I stood up and shot a cinder block to pieces a bit at the time cutting it off a bit each time starting from the top. The best feature is that I can watch the action thru the scope as the recoil is minimal! Wish I had discovered this round back in my aught 6 for all creatures great and small days! Now if I can just find a sub 7 pound synthetic 9.3 life will be perfect!

Sometimes people get a lemon from Kimber. They had to replace my barrel.

When they did, I got a real shooter.

Morale of the story. Bad Kimbers do exist. If you get a bad Kimber, send it back.

Here is a picture of my baby, we had a rough start but I love her now.

I am glad they made it right! How bad were the groups prior to going back? Looks like the rife would not feed either! Last year Ruger just gave me my money back on a new .358win Hawkeye SS. The darn headspace was wrong! The ones that I will never buy are Remington rifles, Remington rifles are just never wrong, its always the customers fault...now I will buy one of them to turn it into something else, not bad when someone works it over i think.
cheers and congrats!

Posts: 353 | Location: Georgia USA | Registered: 29 November 2005

Ignored post by Jimmy P Coaltrain posted

akpls

one of us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
akpls,

there are two keys. Making the shot, and using a good bullet designed for the animal. Practice makes a shooter into a clean one-shot game harvester. The other part is learning how to stalk game to as close as possible.

Obviously, I have no issues with using "too much rifle"; but it's just as hard to drive a brad with a four pound baby sledge as it is to drive a railroad spike with a tackhammer.

What part of Alaska?

Rich

North Pole area. Mostly hunt with father-in-law who live in Paxson area. Bigger can be better in that area since it's loaded with bears, but lately I've been carrying my 7x57 around and it takes care of the moose and caribou just fine. When I head back East for whitetails I take the Roberts though.

Posts: 513 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 25 October 2003

Ignored post by akpls posted

Thomas Jones

One of Us

posted

Sorry I got into this post so late.
Over on the Nosler sight my name is TJ roberts. I have a little ruger RL that is a little fussy but likes the 100 grain barnes tsx real well.
I get 3140 and about .75 from a 20 inch tube. My other Roberts is a very prety custom springfield. It;s a little heavy but it drives tacks.
I also have a custom FN delux in thre Robertes AI and it too is a fine rifle. But I got a .257 weatherby so i never use it.
I am thinking it would make a good 9.3X62
The Roberts is a great round for the vast majority of us who really should keep shots to about 300 yards.
I may have my little ruger restocked by MPI, that would bring the weight down to about 5 LBs.
And with the 2.5X8 leupold, it would be dandy for long walks in the woods...tj3006

freedom1st

Posts: 2450 | Registered: 09 June 2005

Ignored post by Thomas Jones posted

Thomas Jones

One of Us

posted

By the way, I allways take a backup rifle on a hunting trip.
So if I somehow forgot the ammo for my roberts or 6mm.
I will just have to hunt with a .308 or a 30,06.
Not much of a problem...tj3006

freedom1st

Posts: 2450 | Registered: 09 June 2005

Ignored post by Thomas Jones posted

scottfromdallas

One of Us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy P Coaltrain:
I am glad they made it right! How bad were the groups prior to going back?

There was really no good pattern. I was really all over the place. So bad I couldn't even adjust the scope because the pattern was so erratic. I'd guess 6-8". They did make it right. It really shoots well now. Now if I have a bad group, I know it's me and not the rifle.

Posts: 1941 | Location: Texas | Registered: 19 July 2009

Ignored post by scottfromdallas posted

C.C.

One of Us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

I am not saying junk the 257 Robert's, I am saying that people that like the caliber need to start thinking of thr gun as a reloader/handloader only round.

Hornady just came out with the 257 R in their Superformance line of ammo. IIRC, Remington and Nosler also load it. It can be found, with a little research and on-line ordering. Fie on WalMart! Having said that, I do handload for my Roberts, and enjoy it immensely.

Posts: 117 | Location: Utah | Registered: 31 January 2009

Ignored post by C.C. posted

Mort Canard

one of us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Wally World is damn sure not goping to have any.

I am not saying junk the 257 Robert's, I am saying that people that like the caliber need to start thinking of thr gun as a reloader/handloader only round.

If I was dependent on Wally World availability I would not shoot anything but the following centerfire calibers;
.223 Rem
.243 Win
.270 Win
7mm Rem Mag
.30-30
.308 Win
.30-06
.300 Win Mag

Every other centerfire rifle caliber out there is a reloader/handloader only round. I would not own a rifle caliber not on the list unless I reloaded. Most every company makes ammo in these common rounds and you can find standard loads that remain substantially the same over decades.

One ends up having to chase availability of their rifles favorite brand all over the place while looking for sales on that load. Every time you swap brands or loads you have to burn a minimum of half a box or more sighting in and developing confidence in the new loads performance in your firearm.

*******************************************************
For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction.

Posts: 567 | Location: Kansas | Registered: 02 February 2002

Ignored post by Mort Canard posted

Use Enough Gun

One of Us

posted

I have a .257 Roberts in a Browning A-Bolt with a Nikon scope and love it. There's an article by Jack O'Conner's son in the latest Sporting Classics Magazine describing the son's love affair, in part, with the .257 Roberts. I have shot all of the brands of .257 ammo in it and it likes the Hornady light magnum ammo. I have not tried Hornady's Superformance ammo yet, but it would most likely be identical to the light magnum ammo.

Posts: 18576 | Registered: 04 April 2005

Ignored post by Use Enough Gun posted

One of Us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy P Coaltrain:
I am glad they made it right! How bad were the groups prior to going back?

There was really no good pattern. I was really all over the place. So bad I couldn't even adjust the scope because the pattern was so erratic. I'd guess 6-8". They did make it right. It really shoots well now. Now if I have a bad group, I know it's me and not the rifle.

I am glad they made it right. I am thinking of their .223 in the Montana version as my next big game rifle, at 1-9 it will shoot the 62 grain TSX just fine.

Posts: 353 | Location: Georgia USA | Registered: 29 November 2005

Ignored post by Jimmy P Coaltrain posted

scottfromdallas

One of Us

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy P Coaltrain:
quote:
Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy P Coaltrain:
I am glad they made it right! How bad were the groups prior to going back?

There was really no good pattern. I was really all over the place. So bad I couldn't even adjust the scope because the pattern was so erratic. I'd guess 6-8". They did make it right. It really shoots well now. Now if I have a bad group, I know it's me and not the rifle.
I am glad they made it right. I am thinking of their .223 in the Montana version as my next big game rifle, at 1-9 it will shoot the 62 grain TSX just fine.

You are a Kimber addict. It may be time for an intervention

Posts: 1941 | Location: Texas | Registered: 19 July 2009

Ignored post by scottfromdallas posted