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Looking for an out of the box accurate out to 400 yds, .223 Rem bolt action. What do you recommend? Thanks | ||
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Ross, for target, varmints? | |||
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Savage | |||
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Tikka T3x in one of its flavors. I like the CTR with the 20” barrel. | |||
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CZ527, bull barrel go big or go home ........ DSC-- Life Member NRA--Life member DRSS--9.3x74 r Chapuis | |||
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I am fortunate to have two: heavy barrel-Remington 700VS light weight-Remington Model 7 both meet your standard | |||
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Mostly targets and to introduce a grandson to shooting. | |||
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I have a little Howa 1500 in a 223 (two of them actually) and they are so accurate it's boring. The actions are smooth as silk and they have a three position safety. Great little rifle that is lots of fun!! | |||
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I have a cheap little Savage Axis that I am pretty happy with, I agree the Howa is an excellent value though. For me one important factor was the rate of twist. Many older 223's will come in a 12 twist, a later rifle should give you a 1-8 twist. It really depends on what you want to shoot in it. I opted for an 8 twist. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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Win model 70. | |||
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Your grandson will like a 223 and will do well with it. My 11yo grandson who hunts with his parents loves his Ruger All American bolt gun, barrel shortened to 16" with a partly over-barrel suppressor fitted. He has even shot a couple of free range young Himalayan Tahr with it up in our alpine regions. The Ruger is very accurate and will shoot the heavier 65gr bullets as well as the pretty standard 55gr too. | |||
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I shoot two Savage 110 Models with accurate triggers and stocks in .223 Rem. Each has a heavy barrel and are my go to Prairie Dog rifles. With 52 grain Sierra HPBT bullets they shoot ragged hole five shot groups all day when the trigger puller does his part. Longer shots get heavier bullets. I have 6.5 X 20 Ziess Coonquest scopes mounted on mine and for me it is perfect. 400 yards for me is streaching their effectiveness. Good Shooting. phurley | |||
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I've just bought a Tikka T3x Superlite Aspire. I understand that it is a model made specifically for the Australian and NZ markets. https://www.berettanewzealand....tikka?product_id=613 I saw the rifle in the shop and just loved it and walked out with it and a simple 3-9 Burris scope. I have loaded 55gr Hornady SP and Sierra 60gr HP bullets. Tried H322 & H4895 (AR2219 & AR2206H) A couple of promising loads that could be fine tuned. I am also getting an after market spring for the trigger so that I can adjust it to 2 lbs or so. The 60 gr HP bullets do not feed well. the tip hits the barrel edge and does not go into the chamber. I plan to try the Sierra 60gr SP bullets for fallow deer. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Very nice buy Naki, if you get any Sierra 65gr SBT bullets try 25.3grs AR2206H behind them. Previous owner of my grandsons Ruger AM 223 developed this load and I have reloaded same for him too. My son, 11yo grandson and his mum all love the little 223 and have all shot deer, goats and grandson even a couple of young tahr with the Ruger. Barrel cropped to 16" with suppressor so a sweet wee gun to carry and shoot. | |||
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Thanks mate. I used to own a Tikka LSA55 in 222Rem. The most accurate rifle I ever owned. Sold it 5 years ago and I wish I had it. The T3x is a 22 inch threaded barrel with 1 in 12 twist. I am not sure that 65gr will stabilize.
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Ive used the 60 gr. Hornady HP and SP in my sAKO L-461 223 and my Sako 222 Riihimaki on deer, antelope and PG for 40 plus years without a single problem..Fine guns and a great bullet. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Yes true, the Ruger has a 1:8" twist so stabilisation of heavier bullets is not a problem. The Sierra 65gr SBT does have a shorter bearing surface due to the boat-tail and longish ogive so may stabilise. Unfortunately I don't have any examples left of the 65gr bullet otherwise I would send you some to try. Sierra now also produce a 64gr Gameking Tipped (Gamechanger) bullet which would be a goody too although again unknown if it would stabilise in a 1:12" barrel. | |||
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The 60 gr Hornady HP or SP is the perfect deer bullet in the 222,223 and even the 22-250, always perfect expansion on the few Ive recovered, most are pass throughs..I shoot them in Sako L-461s or Riihimakis..Btw, you might consider the 6-223 (6x45) for a great varmint and deer combo... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I'll chime in here - I've a Browning X-Bolt hunter in 223 I'm using as my "walking" varmint rifle. It's extremely well made and has been silly accurate with all my handloads. Mine is the older version when they were still doing the 1:12 twist; new production rifles have a 1:8 twist to appease the heavy bullet crowd. I never go over 55gr, so it's not an issue. I recommend! _____________________________________________________ No safe queens! | |||
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I’ve owned multiple Rem 700s that meet your criteria. Just bought a Rem 700 classic, in .222. First time out, multiple 3/4” five shot/100 yard groups. And that’s with no load development. NRA Patron member | |||
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Ruger American Ranch. Mine shooting consistently quarter inch groups with my hand loads at 100 yards. All original, zero alterations. | |||
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Its all about the gun itself, not the make..all makes shoot well and a few don't..Mostly it seems to depend on the individual barrel.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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...and if you are looking for a Rem 700 Varmint with a Brux barrel in .223, I have one. NRA Benefactor Member US Navy Veteran | |||
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I have eight different brands of bolt guns and if I were to order a rifle site unseen, with out of the box accuracy the only consideration, it would a be a Savage. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Tikka T3x | |||
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For what folks consider a “quality” rifle, the T3X compact is hard to beat. They have a 20”, 1:8” twist barrel, and the stock has a removable spacer. I bought one for my wife, but she decided she didn’t like varmint hunting, so I traded it. As far as “cheap” rifles go, you almost can’t go wrong these days with any of them. I shoot a $500 Ruger American predator that makes bug holes. The action is just a cheap nock off of the tikka, but, like the tikka, it is super stiff. Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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The problem with the 22s is WIND and 400 yards or less. For a 400 yard varmint round in Idaho's Snake River Canyonfor instance Id suggest a 6mm or 25 caliber. I favor my Husqvarna 146 in 250-3000. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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If you like to have a nice gun to look at while your using it and you are a Winchester fan do like I did and buy yourself a little short action Featherweight .223 WSSM Model 70, Its got controlled feed, and a nice custom built look to it. And the .223 WSSM has got the speed you want as well. KJK | |||
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I'd go for a CZ Bren or match barrel AR since those are so good and will last a lifetime, but a Savage or CZ or Tikka crank rifle if slow fire was the only option. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I’m also in the market for a youth 223 rifle for my son. I’m thinking about buying a Ruger no 1 and cutting the stock and barrel down. | |||
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Tex 84 I used a Remington 600 and cut stock--had extra stock for a few years down the road when go back to full length. | |||
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I ended up with three. 1. Featherweight Model 70 with open sights, push feed. 2. Blaser R8 with open sights 3. Smith & Wesson M&P in an AR platform.... Let the fun begin!!! | |||
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CZ600 Alpha has gotten excellent reviews and is very reasonably priced. | |||
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For a 222, 223, 6x45, Iwant an old L-series Sako, the best small action that fits the short case. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I've owned a few of the little "Mini Mauser's" from Zastava, imported by Interarms. Sweet little rifles in 223. | |||
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One of my 223's......an H&R Model 317....that uses a Sako L461 action. Kevin  | |||
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. Tikka gets my vote too! . "Up the ladders and down the snakes!" | |||
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