Wayne,
A buddy of mine picked up a Kurz at a gunshop 3 yrs. ago. The gunshop didn't know what it was and neither did my buddy. I was very tempted to double his investment of $500, but I couldn't do that to a friend. Somebody put a varmint contour Remington 22-250 barrel on it. He had it rebarreled in 250-3000 and it is a very accurate rifle.
Butch

For the last 7 years I have taken the 14 yr old kid that lives down the street hunting. At age 7 he killed his first deer sitting on my knee. His dad loads his 250 w/ 100g partitions. Over the last 7 years he has killed every deer, hog and coyote I have let him shoot. I have too many rifles--bigger and smaller--to throw stones, but if a kid can do it, surely it's adequate for you whizbangers.

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Originally posted by kidd:
Not as long as you can neck down the .378 Weatherby to .25 cal.

I don't think sawdust would burn slow enough to load in that concept.

I forgot who this one belongs to, but its a very nice shortened Mauser in .250 Savage.

If one is considering the .250 Savage, then perhaps one could also consider the .25 WSSM
in the very nice lightweight Model 70 Featherweight.(much easier to secure)

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If one is considering the .250 Savage, then perhaps one could also consider the .25 WSSM
in the very nice lightweight Model 70 Featherweight.(much easier to secure)

Then rebarrel to a .250-3000!

Wish the one in the pic above was mine!!!

You could not easily rebarrel a .25 WSSM to 250-3000 because the bolt face and rails would have to be altered dramatically.

The .25 WSSM is a very nice little gun.

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Originally posted by 22WRF:
You could not easily rebarrel a .25 WSSM to 250-3000 because the bolt face and rails would have to be altered dramatically.

The .25 WSSM is a very nice little gun.

I know...

Would just rather have a .250 Savage and was a SA way to say it.

My oldest boy shot his first deer, a mulie, buck at 175 yards with a friends .250. Went 25 yards and down. My daughter shot her first deer at 50 yards, a whitetail buck with the same rifle, went 3 yards and down.

I love the .250 Savage. It is way cooler than the .243.

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Originally posted by MickinColo:
Who is offering a factory rifle in 250 Savage (250-3000) these days?

Cooper if you have the $$.

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/our_rifles_new.php

Here's mine, a Dakota 76. I put a Zeiss 2.5-8x on it. I'm still working on load development with 100gr Partitions.

My 10 year old granddaughter just shot her first deer last week, using a .250 Savage. It was handloaded with 100 grain Nosler Partition. One shot, instant kill, at about 40 yards. I used the same rifle last year to take my 112th deer, same load, same results. I will admit, it is no good if the shooter is a terrible shot.
WYLD

What round IS good if the shooter is a terrible shot?

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Originally posted by 6.5BR:
What round IS good if the shooter is a terrible shot?

Close is good enough if you have one of these....

This year I am using a .257 Roberts with 100gr Partitions. I loaded them to 2901fps, so that is .250-3000 levels. Only shot 2 deer, but it really blew my mind how the round performed on both of them.

Congrats Marc!

I also used a .257R loaded fairly mild, 117grn interlock @ 2700+fps, and was very happy as well. These mild cartridges that still have fairly flat trajectories are ideal for whitetails.

After using a 300winmag as my main hunting rifle for 12+yrs, I'm finaly seeing the light.

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Originally posted by Greg K:

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Originally posted by MickinColo:
Who is offering a factory rifle in 250 Savage (250-3000) these days?

Cooper if you have the $$.

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/our_rifles_new.php

No where near as nice as the Cooper but Savage offers it in there Model 14 American and 16 Weather Warrior. I'm sure they are a fraction of the price of a Cooper as well. A .250-3000 is on my shortlist to add to my collection as well, but it will probaly be a Model 7 or 700 rebarrel.

Golly gee! Maybe I should just keep mine. roger

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Originally posted by vapodog:

I really love this pic of the 16.0 HMS!

V - you just might have something there

I think VD's picture belongs in the Black Powder Forum!!! roger

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Does anyone really consider the 250-3K an adequate deer cartridge? Do people really use it to hunt? Will it ever get a foot hold anywhere? roger

No, that cartridge stopped being effective on deer about 40 years ago, right after someone said they had a whitetail absorb 3 rounds of 300 win mag.
Anyone here remember that story?
Mike73

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Originally posted by Henry Buck:

I love the .250 Savage. It is way cooler than the .243.

X2

Great deer round within it's limits. There have been many great hunting rounds fade cause the marketing dept of companies learned long ago what it takes to hook a guppy. Just make something new and give a few of em away to the gun writers of choice that then writes stories of how great the new round is compared to the old one. Nuthin to it . Feeding frenzy in guppyville.
In my dotage I think it's kinda neat to have a "didn't make it round" that works well just to be different. I shot my bull this year with another useless cartridge chambered in a Model 99 Savage, the .358. Bang-flop!
In a bolt gun there ain't enough difference between a .243 and a .250-3000 to spit at. The .243 loads to higher pressures so it's a little faster with 100 grainers but the .250 handles heavier bullets so it's arguably more versatile, especially in a bolt where you can safely lean on it a little in the loading dept.
I had an old 99 in .250-3000 that shot a lot of deer and antelope and one cow elk at about 60 yards broadside. Loved that rifle. Got divorced in about 78 and the future-ex swiped it from me, "lovely girl" ...... . Sure miss that rifle, never even got visiting privileges .

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Originally posted by montdoug:

Loved that rifle. Got divorced in about 78 and the future-ex swiped it from me, "lovely girl" ...... . Sure miss that rifle, never even got visiting privileges .

We learn hard sometimes. Mine was all my fishing gear. The guns went with me when I got thrown out of MY house.Oh GREAT POST roger

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Originally posted by bartsche:

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Originally posted by montdoug:

Loved that rifle. Got divorced in about 78 and the future-ex swiped it from me, "lovely girl" ...... . Sure miss that rifle, never even got visiting privileges .

We learn hard sometimes. Mine was all my fishing gear. The guns went with me when I got thrown out of MY house.Oh GREAT POST roger

Did I mention a Log house on 65 acres back boundried by the Clark Fork river and 17 horses too? She had a good attorney and all I had was a bottle of Jack Daniels (well, a lot of em actually Heh-Heh ), but I also had the Clearwater river over Lolo pass and down the Lochsa into Idaho where I put 22 Steelhead on the bank that year which probably had a lot to do with my getting divorced anyway truth be told. Oh, did I also mention when I wasn't working or steelheading 150 miles from home (one way) I was coyote hunting cause they were worth beau coups bucks back then? So there's a minute chance it mighta, sorta, kinda, been my fault anyway . The kicker was the freedom thing where I know I came out on the long end of that deal . But she didn't have to rip off that rifle on top of everything else I just rolled over on I still have that .250 on my list of firearms I sure wish I had back. "lovely girl".

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Originally posted by montdoug:

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Originally posted by bartsche:

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Originally posted by montdoug:

Loved that rifle. Got divorced in about 78 and the future-ex swiped it from me, "lovely girl" ...... . Sure miss that rifle, never even got visiting privileges .

We learn hard sometimes. Mine was all my fishing gear. The guns went with me when I got thrown out of MY house.Oh GREAT POST roger

Did I mention a Log house on 65 acres back boundried by the Clark Fork river and 17 horses too? She had a good attorney and all I had was a bottle of Jack Daniels (well, a lot of em actually Heh-Heh ), but I also had the Clearwater river over Lolo pass and down the Lochsa into Idaho where I put 22 Steelhead on the bank that year which probably had a lot to do with my getting divorced anyway truth be told. Oh, did I also mention when I wasn't working or steelheading 150 miles from home (one way) I was coyote hunting cause they were worth beau coups bucks back then? So there's a minute chance it mighta, sorta, kinda, been my fault anyway . The kicker was the freedom thing where I know I came out on the long end of that deal . But she didn't have to rip off that rifle on top of everything else I just rolled over on I still have that .250 on my list of firearms I sure wish I had back. "lovely girl".

Maybe the hate is gone, you could call her and see if she'd like to give you back your rifle? Probably be happy to know that you and JD haven't had a date in quite a few years. FS

Well i took my old girl (savage 99 in 250, with redfield peep) out for a little stroll this past Sunday, boy did she feel good in my arms. Do i really care what others shoot or think is adequate?? No way, if a 100gr silvertip @ 2,800fps cant do it to a whitetail then something is wrong...

I kick myself for passing on a Ruger 77 in 250 last month.

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Originally posted by Fasteel:
Maybe the hate is gone, you could call her and see if she'd like to give you back your rifle? Probably be happy to know that you and JD haven't had a date in quite a few years. FS

Problem being, once ole JD and I parted ways some 25 years ago a cute face and a well filled pair of Wranglers just weren't enough anymore (go figure). Amazing how your perspective changes when the beer goggles come off.
Actually, 21 years with a pretty face that encourages your having fun and shoots with ya instead of at ya kinda keeps ya around the ole homestead cause ya wanna be not cause ya have to be.
Naa, she can shove that place where the sun don't shine.
All this talk has given me a hankering for another .250-3000 though. Much as I'd like that Model 99 back a bolt rifle would sure be fun to load for. I'll bet a 75 grain V-Max at 3,200ish to 3,300ish FPS would sure mess up a rockchucks day and when the rockchucks go beddie-bye for the winter a 115 or 117 grainer at 2,700ish oughta fill the freezer quite nicely. Ya suppose this is what they were after when they came out with the .243?

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Originally posted by montdoug:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fasteel:
Ya suppose this is what they were after when they came out with the .243?

Absotively! Had they done it right with a long throat and a medium length action for heavy bullets they would have had it all. JOMO! roger

I've seen it work in the field out of a friend's Savage 99. Kinda cool

Very classical, like a Filson Wool coat and hat with Red Wing boots.

You got that right Roger. Actually the .243 is a dandy round I just personally think the .250-3000 is more versatile.
Had they done what you said it might all be a different story.

I am completely swayed by the sales = value philosophy. In keeping with that, my first action will be to toss my CD of Patsy Cline's greatest hits and replace it with some Lady Gaga.

The more I think about it, the more worried I get about the exceptional toughness of the American whitetail. The gold standard for trophy bull elk is a 180 grain Partition at 2700 fps, according to the gunrag writers, out to 300+ yards. Yet a 100 grain Partition at 2700 fps apparently runs out of gas at 250 yards or less, for an animal which weighs less than a third as much as that trophy elk.

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Originally posted by taylorce1:

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Originally posted by Greg K:

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Originally posted by MickinColo:
Who is offering a factory rifle in 250 Savage (250-3000) these days?

Cooper if you have the $$.

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/our_rifles_new.php

No where near as nice as the Cooper but Savage offers it in there Model 14 American and 16 Weather Warrior. I'm sure they are a fraction of the price of a Cooper as well. A .250-3000 is on my shortlist to add to my collection as well, but it will probaly be a Model 7 or 700 rebarrel.

However Savage doesn't make the lefties in the 250.

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In my dotage I think it's kinda neat to have a "didn't make it round" that works well just to be different.

I agree and feel the same about my Parker Hale M81 Classic in 6mm Remington..

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Originally posted by Prewar70:
Here's mine, a Dakota 76. I put a Zeiss 2.5-8x on it. I'm still working on load development with 100gr Partitions.

That is an exquisite little rifle, to say the least. What does it weigh all up and ready to go?

This is the beginning of my 250-3000.




It is loaded with preservative grease and doesn't photo well.
Butch

Long throated ,Butch?? roger

GEE!!!!!!!
After 25 years of killing about everything Hawaii and Oregon have to offer[deer, elk, Mouflon, feral Hybrid sheep, cougar, a couple of smaller--300lb black bears etc etc] I am going to have to tell my little 250 AI it is impotent!!!What a shame.
Aloha, Mark

Yes sir Roger. I'm hoping Duane can fix the bottom metal. I guess you saw the cutout on the front of the ejection port.
Butch