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For health reasons I didn't get to go. Son in law(The grandpa) and my grandson (the dad) took my twin great grandsons hunting. One got his first deer a nice 10 pointer. (I was there in that I furnished the rifles and ammo). He was using a Remington 600 in .222 that I cut the stock off for youth. This as a first he shot it twice-once in shoulder and behind shoulder this was from about 140 yards and it ran about 40 yards.This was using my reloads 55 grain cup and core. The other twin shot a coyote this was about 80 to 100 yards and one shot. This was using a Winchester model 70 in .223 using 55 grain cup and core. | ||
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A better deer bullet for the 222, 223, and 22-250 has been for my kids, grandkids, and self is the 60 gr Hornady in SP or HP Give it a try. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Ray I don't doubt that the 60 grainer would work great. There is a lot of if it aint broke don't fix it with me and those 55 grainers. This deer requiring two shots was a first not counting finishing shots on a few that were down for the count. Over the years has been a bunch. | |||
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Both of my grandsons and three of my close friend's grandsons all took their first deer with a Sako .223 which I cut down for a young shooter. All five were one-shot kills -- two of them at exactly 200 yards. The ammunition in most, if not all of these kills was my handloaded 60 grain Nosler Solid Base, a bullet no longer produced but which performed marvelously. I still have a small hoard of them, enough to last through great grandchildren should I last that long myself . Although I particularly like that obsolete Nosler bullet, any C & C 55 grain .224" bullet from a 222/223/222M placed in the chest cavity of a whitetail will have it on the ground about a quickly as any other projectile from any other cartridge. Don't believe it? Then just ask the ghosts of a few hundred thousand soldiers from around the world just how ineffective the .223 is on 150-ish pound animals. | |||
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My wife shot her one and only animal with a .222 and old Rem. factory SPs. It was an impala ram, broadside at 50 yards and she made a perfect lung shot. It ran maybe 40 yards and piled up dead. | |||
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SOLD Not to horn in on this thread, but if anyone needs/wants a .222 I have a Howa 1500 Mini action (blue with composite stock) that has only been shot from a bench. My hunting days are over. Mike NRA Benefactor Member US Navy Veteran | |||
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The place the twins were hunting is owned by a great uncle. He has a shooting bench set up and wanted to see them shoot before hunting. At both of their first shot he determined they were in the kill zone and could hunt on his place. | |||
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Just action, no barrel? Or barrel suitable to become 6x45mm? TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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The question came up was it sold. Yes, i bough it and it arrived today everything looks to be as described and I would give Michael Michalski the thumbs up on someone to buy from. One or the other of my twin great grandsons will be getting this and I'll give the other one something else. | |||
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I hunted deer with .222 Remington as kid, but unfortunately never got one. I do have a Remington 600 in .222 Rem (and .308 and 350 Rem mag) and grimaced when I read about cutting the stock! My twin grandsons just turned one. I plan to start them off hunting (when they are 5) with a 6.5 Grendel or reduced 7-08 load. I think the 6.5 Grendel in a 120 gr load is splendid deer round for beginners - in bolt action of course not an AR platform (which is what my 6.5 is). "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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Stock fit and protection from muzzle blast are more important for young hunters than is recoil. The recoil of nearly any of the smaller centerfires isn't really a problem -- it's the muzzle blast which causes neophyte shooters to fear shooting a rifle and develop a flinch. Stock fit is very important. Kids have smaller, thinner faces, so excessive drop in the stock and/or a scope mounted too high creates a situation in which they can't place their cheek properly against the stock and still see the sight picture in the scope. Try aiming a rifle with your head bobbing around in the upper reaches of the atmosphere and you'll see what I mean. I fitted a cut-off stock with a high Monte Carlo to a little L461 Sako action in .223, mounted a scope as low as possible on it, and it has become an accomplished deer slayer for a half-dozen youngsters. | |||
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Austin Hunter--You grimmaced when you read about cutting the stock on a Rem 600. Not to worry it was an extra stock that got cut and I must say it has worked out well. Year or two be putting it back into a stock stock. | |||
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Ray,, when we had caribou I carried either a 220 Swift Sako or a 222 Win Mod 70,,,both with 60gr Hornady 60gr spire points,,, absolutely deadly combo!!! I tend to use more than enough gun | |||
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Wifezilla and two of my daughters use the 64 grain Winchester deer ammunition in their ARs in 223. So far they are 5-0 against the deer (three bucks and two does) Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Back in the day shot heaps of Deer with one of my Sako .222 using 63gr Sierra, always worked well, later in my Sako .223 used same & 70gr Speer but preferred the 63gr. Now I do some Culling I use 64gr Win in my Sako 75 .223 & it works well . | |||
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Yes I recall that 64 gr bullet was designed for deer hunters and it apparantly works quite well Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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My Grandmother was fond of the .222. Her deer gun was a Savage 340, iron sights. She also had a .270 and a .243, but the .222 was the one she hunted deer with. She lived in deer country, so if she didn't get a good shot today she could wait until tomorrow. She was 84 when we went on our last hunt together. Neck shot a deer at about 100 yards. One shot. She looked over at me and said: "I don't see as well as I use to." She saw well enough and was a great shot! She passed away before the next hunting season. | |||
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WAterrat, I've shot a few deer with the 220 swift and witnessed more than a few kills, it amazed me. it killed like something in Star Wars! I sold it however as it just blood shot too much deer IMO and with any bullet. I still have about 200 plus rounds loaded in new WW brass I should sell or build myself another Swift..I know a ranching family that the wife has killed an elk ever year out her kitchen window on there haystack, all one shot lung heart shots, but perhaps with availability of brass etc. Ill go with a 22-250 as I have a ton of 250-3000 new brass. Its close enough for guvment work! I have a couple of 222s and a 6x45 and a clunker Husqvarna 98 needing a home. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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You're going to peddle the 6x45mm? TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Probably not, I've had it over 40 years now, Its a early Sako L-series action full custom English style I built at 5 Lbs, Averages ,280 groups and my grandson put his name on it..Its taken lot of deer in my family The 6x45(6mm/223) duplicates the 243 for all practical purposes. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Mine is a rebored Savage 24V, I'd like to find/build a light bolt gun as well... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I built a 6mm TCU on a mini MK X MPI stock, very light, but well balanced with a 22" barrel. Lots of deer have fallen to it with kids I have taken out. 80 grn Rem corlok at 2850 fps. I make sure they take a good shot, so they have all been 1 shot kills. It will exit most broadside shots, or a mushroomed bullet just under the skin on the off side. | |||
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