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My lastest.... Rare rifle from Pre WW-1 period. A Haendel model 1909 in 6,5mm(x?). As the old german catalog suggest it might be the rimless .25/35 wich is the .25remington The scope is the rare Zeiss ZielAcht(X8)in SEM mounting. When I first saw this rifle I thought it was a guildgun and someone has made a crossbreed between a Mauser m98 and a Mannlicher Schönauer in a M88 stock. But it is the real deal. It appears to be very rare as not many were made.       DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | ||
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Hi Alf. I had a strange feeling you would respond to this post...don`t ask why!..  DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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I'm salivating. That's truly a lovely rig. Congratulations on acquiring it. I have a Haenel falling-block .22 LR. The workmanship is second to none and it is extremely accurate. Needless to say, I love it! | |||
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Jens, it is so lovely. When you confirm the chambering, let me know if you have any trouble obtaining brass and I will do what I can on this side of the Atlantic. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Oh I don't know about that.....  Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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That is what they make rasps and sand paper for. And the real bad one belt sanders. | |||
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I must say I too have an admire of the graceful lines of Pre-WW1 german and english guns. However if one have handled a Winchester M54 or Pre-64 M70 of the Pre-WW2 period one will recognize these rifles too is slim and slick. The old Savage 1895 and 1899 with their slim and schnabel forend resemble the Mauser Model Bs forend. Later the Savage in the 50s had fatter forends...but still a well made gun. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Style preferences are just that, preferences nothing more. Trim (i.e. dimension) and weight are measurable attributes. This stock is design .039 of an inch narrower here than this other therefore it is a better design?  Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I knew the picture of a Winchester M70 featherweight would rouse a response from ALF!  Style of course has always been geographic. But realistically even modern German or Austrian gun manufacturers don't make guns like the one shown above. Styles also change with time. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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I like that rifle, but Im a full blown nostalgic, that said the US has made and still produces some prett slinky guns that appeal to me..The Ruger International and I do have some nice slinder European guns.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I saw one of those earlier this week. It was cleaner, looking almost like a NIB rifle. It had what looked like a Schmidt & Bender 4x with German reticle mounted. Action was very slick and smooth, and one of the unique features was the way the magazine follower seemed to be cammed so it stayed with the floorplate when the magazine was opened. WHoever had the rifle prior the the present owner had made brass from 38-55 brass by removing the rim and cutting an extractor groove, a neat conversion, although I though 30-30 might have been easier?? If ever I run across one for sale I may give it a try. Looking briefly at the size of the cartridge and specs it should be rather mild to shoot. JJK | |||
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Jens, I thought I had the only one in captivity. Mine is indeed chambered in .25 Remington, U.S. designation of the 6.5x52, and is a blast to shoot. Pun intended. It was manufactured in 1912 by the proof marks.  | |||
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Jens, I started load development in my rifle to use in the upcoming whitetail deer season. Our deer are seldom over 130 pounds and I don't doubt it's killing ability at the modest range to which it will be put. My best grouping to date is the newly developed 110 grain Hornady .257 FTX bullet, which is moving 2200 fps by a charge of IMR-3031. This bullet was designed to put new life into the obsolete .25-35 Winchester and should be perfectly adequate for the little 6.5. P.S. I noticed your bolt handle is of the knob type while mine is a flat spoon handle. | |||
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Thanks joe!!. Whatta nice rifle you have aquired. I guess they are even more rare on your side of the pond. I am aware the .25-35wcf is again becomming popular. Several years ago Winchester collectors hated this caliber...today its the new vogue. Once I get the my rifle in hand I will get to know more. Right know the gun is km420 from here. The guy I bought it from will drop it of here at the end of the month. I also look foreward to stare through a Zeiss Zielacht...never done that before. The Zeiss scope it self is a highly collector item too. I DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Yes this is the first one I have ever seen, Jens and although I didn't need it, I could not resist buying. I have loaded up a few more test loads to try this week and this should confirm what load I will use. Your 8x Ziess would be a real benefit for this.  Looking forward to a report on your fine rifle. | |||
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