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| <redleg155> |
I too am interested in the worthiness of the 223 improved. redleg | ||
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The .223 improved would be very, very close to the .222 Magnum in case capacity, and therefore performance. I have both a .223 and .222 Magnum in nearly identical Sakos. I truly can't tell the difference in them in field, bench, or chronograph performance, hence I don't think you would be getting much for you hundred dollar conversion. There is probably almost as much difference in effective case capacity in switching from heavy military cases to more capacious commercial .223 cases as there is in rechambering from the standard to the improved round. The thicker military cases can be loaded to a higher working pressure, so they can pretty much equal the velocities obtained from the lighter commercial cases. Long and short of it is that this improvement is dubious, at least in terms of velocity improvement. If there is some other goal, then my comments may not be particularly relevant. | |||
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PowderBurns... years ago I had owned a 338-06 improved and a 22-250 improved... I became fed up with fireforming as I shoot oftan and I dont like sending bullets down the barrel to make brass... or stuffing cases with cream of wheat, or any other breakfast food. If you shoot alot... its a hassel in my opinion and if you shoot alot and want more preformance in your 22s go out and buy a 22-250. | |||
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You aren't going to pick up a lot of extra velocity but if you shoot a lot the time you save trimming cases will be well worth the money. One thing to look out for when rechambering is to find a gunsmith who understands how to set up an Ackley-improved cahmber so you can fire-form using gactory loads...he will need to turn your barrel back a bit to accomplish this. Steve Timm has written about the .223AI quite a bit in Varmint Hunter magazine plus you might try posting on www.varmintehunting.com | |||
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I just had my Savage Tactical 223 reamed out to 223 Ackley 40* IMP. The whole job cost $50.00. Fireforming loads with 50 gr Ballistic Tips and H335 yield 3250 fps and groups of 1/2" or less are the norm. After fireforming I worked up to max loads with the 40 gr BT and 50 gr BT. With the 40gr I got 4040 fps and groups in the .3's. This is a hot load (31gr H335). The 50 gr BT with 27.5 gr of H335 gave me 3650 fps but only .75" groups. Definately on the heels of the 22-250 Rem. Worth the conversion in my opinion. E-mail me with more questions. Iraklion@juno.com ------------------ "We should not say the Greeks fight like heroes. We should say that heroes fight like Greeks"... Winston Churchill [This message has been edited by POP (edited 08-10-2001).] | |||
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| <aussie john> |
Gotta love that saying, "IF GUNS ARE OUTLAWED, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS) You sound like an Australian gun owner. That is a compliment. Back those who fight for your RIGHTS of FREEDOM. (Trust me on this one, I live where the GOVT. call forced sale of firearms a buyback. You can't buy back that which you never owned!!!!!!!!!!). [This message has been edited by aussie john (edited 09-06-2001).] | ||
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| <PowderBurns> |
quote: How did this inquiry turn into a debate about Australian RKBA or lack thereof? | ||
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