I noticed that the following were available in 6.5 Creedmoor. I have a lot of different projects going, but I fell in love with this cartridges little brother the 6.5x47 Lapua when I was in Australia. We built a wonderful little rifle on a Tikka T3 that I used for F-Class.

So we have the Ruger M77 Varmint, Ruger American, and Weatherby Vanguard, as well as the Savage 11s.

Anyone got a 6.5 Creedmoor they want to talk about.

Been looking and thinking as well. I have never owned a Savage in my life, but the model 10 Predator with the fluted barrel and camo looks pretty sexy. Might be just the ticket for long range coyotes; or anything else long range.

I enjoyed shooting a gunwerks version. Very nice fit and great to shoot.

I have yet to see one. I was impressed with the Christensens rifle I saw in Anchorage at Sportsmens Warehouse.

Not building one, have enough projects I am working on.

Mine is a Savage Lightweight, I will have it in hand tomorrow. I also have a Mauser Kurz in 6.5x47 and a Tikka T3 in 6.5x55. I'm going to try and get a loan of a Rem Model 7 in 260 to have a full hand for a real comparison - a magazine article may result

Tentman,

I had nothing but love for the 6.5x47, and if I still lived in Australia I'd buy back into it. The Creedmoor may not be the better round, but it's the most available in America. To me the 260 was a 100% bad design from the beginning. No room in that mag for long VLD bullets.

It is very much like the 6mm Rem was. Remington rode the fence and Lapua and Hornady built a better mouse trap.

Not knocking the 6mm Rem by the way, in the right action (long) with the right twist (fast) it's a hell of a round.

It seems like a pattern with Remington - they did that with Rem 700s in 308 Winchester too - throats long enough for longer bullets or bullets seated farther out, but with magazines that only handle minimum length cartridges.

I have a custom Mauser chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor with a Douglas CM barrel that shot factory load Hornady's at 1.5 MOA, showing good potential for a custom load. What I like about the round is the very mild recoil and the report is mild as well.

On paper this looks like a great cartridge with good factory ammo according to reports. I guess it depends on whether a heavy 26" Savage or 28" Ruger suits the intended use or whether the lighter weight rifles are a better choice. There are quite a few good articles around on the cartridge if you look on the net which you have probably already read. They convinced me that I need one!

As a member of The 6.5 Creedmoor forum. I'm more than just sold on the 6.5 Creedmoor. . Mine is the stainless Ruger Hawkeye. Once I had the barrel seasoned and lightened the trigger to 22-28 oz . It shot in the .3s from a plastic MTM rest. So I ran it with the factory 26" barrel for a year and half. Then this fall I had the irristable urge for a heavy carbine for my general purpose winter rifle. .So I chucked it up in the vise on my truck. Took my Sawzall and chopped the barrel to 18.7" then used an RCBS ase mouth champhering tool to crown it and a flat file to straighten up the muzzle. . I lost 200 fps total with the finished 18.6" barrel. And, it still shot under 1" groups at 300 meters. With the same loads that it shot the same size groups at the same distance with the 26" barrel. In a similarly priced rifle. None out shoot the Ruger M77 Mk2 Hawkeye, Predator and Varmint/Target. .

But. With the 6.5 Creedmoor it has become apparent that which ever brand and model you get. They just flat shoot lights out. Some of the Savages have been having tight necks/throats . But Savage seems to have made good on them.
As long as you get a 1:8" twist your good to go.
Personally I'm looking forward to Ruger coming out with the Scout rifle in 18" stainless. And Savage coming out with the Axis in 6.5 Creedmoor.

Other than dangerous game I think the 6.5 Creedmoor is the worlds best cartridge. From Ak/Yukon moose to red squirrel.

I currently have four rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor; 2 Weatherby Vanguards 2s, a Marlin XS7 with a Savage 11 barrel, and a Savage 11 with a heavy shilen barrel that started life as a 260.

The Weatherby Vanguard 2s were, I believe, a Cabela's special run and may be the most accurate out of the box rifles with factory ammo that I've owned and I've owned well over 1,000 rifles. I have replaced the stocks, one with a McMillan McMillan Hunter and the other with a Boyds Prairie Hunter. I really like the addition of the McMillan stock, as this style seems to be a nice match with the 24" barrel of the short action Vanguard. I'm not really sure how much I like the Boyds stock, as it is rather heavy, being a laminated stock, and the geometry of the pistol grip is more open/shallow than I prefer. The Remington 700 LSS-MR stock fits me perfectly and is my favorite OEM factory specs stock.

The Marlin/Savage parts gun shoots MOA+/- with Hornady factory ammo and a couple of handloads, IOW just a little less accurate than the Vanguard 2s, but it is both shorter and lighter. The Savage/Shilen parts gun is a sub-MOA shooter with both the 120 and 140 grain Hornady factory ammo.

I agree that the 6.5 Creedmoor is superior to the 260 Remington when loaded with long VLD bullets in a short action, but Remington marketed the 260 as a hunting cartridge. I think that Remington could have helped the 260 achieve greater success if standard grade/cost factory loads in the 100, 120, and 140 grains had been offered. Also, Remington should have offered the 260 in the popular 700 BDL and the entry-level 700 ADL, rather than initially in the unpopular 700 BDL-SS-DM and the short Model Seven.

It seems to me that Remington could hardly have done a worse job of planning and introducing the 260 back in 1997. I have wondered if someone at Remington who didn't want the 260 to succeed actually sabotaged the whole thing. It just doesn't seem possible that random chance could have resulted in so many bad decisions and bad outcomes, regardless of how incompetent Remington's marketing department can be at times.

I'm going to buy one of the RAR Predators in 6.5 Creedmoor when they become available. I have read somewhere that Howa is going to offer the 1500 in 6.5 Creedmoor sometime during 2015, but I already have the 2 Vanguard 2s.

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Originally posted by Big Wonderful Wyoming:
Tentman,
To me the 260 was a 100% bad design from the beginning. No room in that mag for long VLD bullets.

It is very much like the 6mm Rem was. Remington rode the fence and Lapua and Hornady built a better mouse trap.

Absolutely on the nose. roger

I would like to see a Kimber 84 Montana in 6.5 creedmoor. I have no delusions about such a light rifle being particularly accurate. However, it should be "hunting accurate", and would provide a good combination of relatively light recoil and killing power for such a light weight rifle. Sounds like an ideal high elevation hunting rifle.
Matt

Yes, a nice light hunting rifle like the Ruger Ultra Light or the Compact would also be ideal
. Savage has a nice light one and the Ruger American is nice and light. But I would prefer a nice little crf. If my wife's Ruger Compact in 308 is any indication on accuracy it would be fine in 6.5 Creedmoor. Tho there would be a fair amount of velocity loss with a 16.5" barrel. Her 308 has turned in many 5/8" groups and in 308 the velocity loss isn't too great. For a general hunting round anyway.

Check out the post for Legendary Rifle Works under Custom Rifles. If you go to their web site you will see the Creedmore listed among the calibers they will soon be offering. This will be on their new/old Ed Brown 704 rifles. A Creedmore from them is in my budget!

One the other end of the budget, you have GA Precision, Accuracy Intl, Robar, Surgeon, and others. Depends on what you want to do with it...hunt or shoot paper at 700 to 1,000 yards....and how seriously.

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Originally posted by sputster:
It seems like a pattern with Remington - they did that with Rem 700s in 308 Winchester too - throats long enough for longer bullets or bullets seated farther out, but with magazines that only handle minimum length cartridges.

Do they, or have they EVER made a SA in which that is NOT the case?

My old 788 in .22-250 shoots 1/2MOA groups but has to be shot as a single shot
because of that short mag. Shorten up that same bullet/load combo so they will
fit into the mag and the groups are 1-1 1/4".

I have indeed heard of a run of 6.5 1:8 Creedmoor in a Kinber Montana coming up.

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Originally posted by BaxterB:
I have indeed heard of a run of 6.5 1:8 Creedmoor in a Kinber Montana coming up.

That is good to here. The only 6.5 creedmore's I see on Kimbers website are a couple of $4000+ Sniper/Tactical rifles and the 84m Adirondack. It has an 18" barrel, weighs a little under 5lbs, and sells for about $1750. I would rather have a Montana. It's $500 less, has a 22" barrel and only weighs 7oz more. If I wanted to spend more money, I would buy a NULA.
Matt

I just posted a thread on med. bores asking about this round..The loading books show it to be competitive with the great 250-3000 in all respects, but components seem much easier to come by in these hard times for gun folks....

I would think a Sako L-57 or 571 would be the berries for a Creedmore?? or even a Savage mod 99 rebarreled and the feed worked on. My useage would be for Mule Deer, Whitetail, coyotes, hogs and Javalina I suspect. I liked the idea of heavier bullets in the 6.5 as opposed to those of the 257 and 6MMs and velocities were very close..

A Rem 722 might make a nice action for such a caliber..Its certainly an interesting caliber and I already have a couple of 250-3000s.

Ray; the 6.5 Creedmoor is the greatest round invented in a long time. Since the 375 Ruger.
I think Ruger needs to get off their rumps and chamber the Compact, Frontier and especially the GS Scout and the Ultra Light. .
I can't think of a sweeter little hunting rifle than the Ruger M77 Mk2 Ultra Light with 20" barrel in 6.5 Creedmoor. I think the 99 Savage would be a great candidate to be converted to 6.5 Creedmoor. Pressure is not a problem. Neither is bolt thrust.
250/3000 brass fire forms out to 6.5 Cm very well.
A 660 Remington or Model 7 or model 722 . It would be nice if CZ made a bit larger size 527. That would make a Sweet little Cm.

Or the Adirondack or Montana. . Too bad u live in Idaho

I have a Savage Predator and my wife has a Savage Lady Hunter, both of which are very accurate. The only negative thing that I can think of with this round is that you are pretty much stuck with having to use Hornaday brass.

There is also Nosler, Norma and Winchester brass for it. It's my guess that Lapua will start making brass for it within a year or 2 also. But I've been Very happy with the Hornady brass.

Which cartridge can fulfil the following criteria?

1. Offers a case that tapers toward the front for hurried chambering & easy extraction.

2. Offers a shoulder of 25 degrees for a better powder burn & longer case life.

3. A long neck to complement the sharp shoulder without unnecessary intrustion into the powder column.

It could be any cartridge or caliber as long as it complies with all criteria.


Santa Claus

A Savage 99 barrel would work.

How about a 6 3/4 lb BAR Shorttrac? All the existing non magnum Shorttracs have 10 or 12 twist barrels, with the confined magazine a 8 twist Creedmoor would be a natural fit. Fast shooting, light weight, very light recoil and all the range a guy could want.

I'm not familiar with the ShortTrack Browning autoloaders.
I know they made a squad level designated marksman rifle on what appears to be the sporting bar reciever.

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Originally posted by Atkinson

I would think a Sako L-57 or 571 would be the berries for a Creedmore?? or even a Savage mod 99 rebarreled and the feed worked on. My useage would be for Mule Deer, Whitetail, coyotes, hogs and Javalina I suspect. I liked the idea of heavier bullets in the 6.5 as opposed to those of the 257 and 6MMs and velocities were very close..

I just bought a L579 complete action and 6.5 Creedmoor is currently my top choice for building this rifle. This will be the first rifle I've assembled... I want it to be a handy sporter for PA whitetail woods but with a heavy sporter barrel for added shooting stability.
Any advice on barrel manufacturers? Length? Twist?
From reading the previous posts it seems like it's hard to make this caliber NOT shoot!
Thanks.

26" and 1 in 8" twist would be my choice.
Length to burn powder and hang on the target in your hands. Twist to run long 140's + bullets.

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Originally posted by Santa Claus:
Which cartridge can fulfil the following criteria?

1. Offers a case that tapers toward the front for hurried chambering & easy extraction.

2. Offers a shoulder of 25 degrees for a better powder burn & longer case life.

3. A long neck to complement the sharp shoulder without unnecessary intrustion into the powder column.

It could be any cartridge or caliber as long as it complies with all criteria.


Santa Claus

The 6.5x55 Swede seems to be the one and still very much in use by the Swedes and it will out perform the 260 Rem and the 6.5 Creedmoor.

Santa Claus

I handled a Ruger Hawkeye chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor at my local gunshop and it made a good first impression. It felt good in my hands and I liked the 26" barrel.

I would think the L571 Sako would be the berries with a Lothar Walthar barrel. I would opt for a 20 or 22 inch fwt. barrel for the use on Pa whitetail etc as you describe..

No need for a long heavy barrel for that..I would personally go for a 22 inch no.1 or no. 2, Douglas measurement..I might even opt for a Douglas barrel, never had a bad Douglas, although LW has been my favorite for many years now..Either way your in good hands.

I have looked at all the available models and not pleased with any of them, so if I decide on one I'll build it on a Sako or perhaps it would fit a mini Mauser??

I am waiting on a Ruger RL in 250-3000 that may be for sale by a poster on AR..if he decides to sell it to me, I may just go that route..

I have never owned a 250 that wouldn't drive tacks and I've killed so much big game with one, I would be comfortable hunting any animal in NA, even the big bears if it was all I had, which its not, so I would probably only use it for Mule deer, pronghorn, whitetail Javalina, feral hogs, varmints, and an occasional cow elk on a tag draw hunt..

The Creedmore seemed to fit that criteria pretty darn good..Its and interesting round.